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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Christian Koenig <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	Dongwon Kim <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Vivek Kasireddy <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/26] dma-buf: Introduce DMA-buf mapping types
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 09:11:36 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261022121136.GZ3008132@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <995d4ff6f8ba968c75ef3ac70e1dc0a60b6cbc14.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 02:05:30PM +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> On Thu, 2026-10-22 at 08:52 -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 09:25:55AM +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> > > > Attachment could also scan existing attachments to preferentially
> > > > pick matching
> > > > mapping_types that are compatible with existing attachments, thus
> > > > avoiding
> > > > invalidation where possible.
> > > 
> > > Current design appears to be that attach only determines the set of
> > > theoretically possible mapping types, disregarding other
> > > attachments. 
> > > Taking other attachments into account is also problematic because
> > > the
> > > dma-resv lock is not held.
> > 
> > Stating my restriction in a different way, the attach may start with
> > {ualink, pcie} as options. Then we do the first map and select
> > ualink.
> > 
> > Then we get an invalidation and do a second map. Here we need a way
> > to
> > change the mapping type options to {ualink}.
> > 
> > The exporter would have to make the memory visible on ualink to
> > succeed the map.
> 
> That sounds like detaching and reattaching with a different set of
> options. Would that be a fit?

I don't know. The attachment is the anchor for the invalidations,
having it get replaced may create complicated races. Today we don't
destroy it while HW is active..

I'd probably look at keeping the attachment and replacing the mapping
type list as a first try before leaping to replacing the attachment..

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-22 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-18  0:11 [PATCH RFC 00/26] Add DMA-buf mapping types and convert vfio/iommufd to use them Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 01/26] dma-buf: Introduce DMA-buf mapping types Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21  6:24   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-21 12:37     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22  6:52       ` Alistair Popple
2026-10-22  7:25         ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-22 11:17           ` Alistair Popple
2026-10-22 13:57             ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-22 11:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 12:05             ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-22 12:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-10-22 13:30         ` Christian König
2026-10-22 14:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22  6:59       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-22  7:20         ` Alistair Popple
2026-10-22  7:29           ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 02/26] dma-buf: Add the SGT DMA mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 03/26] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_mapping_attach() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-16 20:26   ` Karl Mehltretter
2026-10-19  8:35     ` Christian König
2026-10-19 12:43       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-19 13:30         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 13:47           ` Thomas Hellström
2026-10-19 15:34             ` Christian König
2026-10-19 18:41             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20  7:01           ` Christian König
2026-10-20 14:31             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 04/26] dma-buf: Route SGT related actions through attach->map_type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 05/26] dma-buf: Allow single exporter drivers to avoid the match_mapping function Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 06/26] drm: Check the SGT ops for drm_gem_map_dma_buf() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 07/26] dma-buf: Convert all the simple exporters to use SGT mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 08/26] drm/vmwgfx: Use match_mapping instead of dummy calls Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 09/26] accel/habanalabs: Use the SGT mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 10/26] drm/xe/dma-buf: " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 11/26] drm/amdgpu: " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 12/26] vfio/pci: Change the DMA-buf exporter to use mapping_type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-13  8:29   ` Baolu Lu
2026-04-13 13:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 13/26] dma-buf: Update dma_buf_phys_vec_to_sgt() to use the SGT mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 14/26] iio: buffer: convert " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 15/26] functionfs: " Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 16/26] dma-buf: Remove unused SGT stuff from the common structures Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 17/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_map_attachment(_unlocked) to dma_buf_sgt_ Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 18/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_unmap_attachment(_unlocked) to dma_buf_sgt_* Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 19/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_attach() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 20/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_dynamic_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_dynamic_attach() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 21/26] dma-buf: Add the Physical Address List DMA mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-13  8:58   ` Christian König
2026-04-13 12:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22  8:17       ` Christian König
2026-04-22 11:53         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 12:39           ` Christian König
2026-04-22 13:13             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22 14:04               ` Christian König
2026-04-22 15:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-09  5:31                   ` Xu Yilun
2026-05-11 22:48                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 22/26] vfio/pci: Add physical address list support to DMABUF Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 23/26] iommufd: Use the PAL mapping type instead of a vfio function Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-16 19:40   ` Karl Mehltretter
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 24/26] iommufd: Support DMA-bufs with multiple physical ranges Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 25/26] iommufd/selftest: Check multi-phys DMA-buf scenarios Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 26/26] dma-buf: Add kunit tests for mapping type Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-01 19:05 ` [PATCH RFC 00/26] Add DMA-buf mapping types and convert vfio/iommufd to use them Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03  7:07   ` Kasireddy, Vivek

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