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From: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
To: Raag Jadav <raag.jadav@intel.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Riana Tauro" <riana.tauro@intel.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, anshuman.gupta@intel.com,
	lucas.demarchi@intel.com, aravind.iddamsetty@linux.intel.com,
	umesh.nerlige.ramappa@intel.com, frank.scarbrough@intel.com,
	sk.anirban@intel.com, "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] drm: Add a vendor-specific recovery method to device wedged uevent
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 12:52:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aG6eNcygPshsSlC8@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aG56Trd1h5WbWYJt@black.fi.intel.com>

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 05:18:54PM +0300, Raag Jadav wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 04:09:20PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> > On 09.07.25 15:41, Simona Vetter wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 04:50:13PM +0530, Riana Tauro wrote:
> > >> Certain errors can cause the device to be wedged and may
> > >> require a vendor specific recovery method to restore normal
> > >> operation.
> > >>
> > >> Add a recovery method 'WEDGED=vendor-specific' for such errors. Vendors
> > >> must provide additional recovery documentation if this method
> > >> is used.
> > >>
> > >> v2: fix documentation (Raag)
> > >>
> > >> Cc: André Almeida <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
> > >> Cc: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
> > >> Cc: David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
> > >> Cc: <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
> > >> Suggested-by: Raag Jadav <raag.jadav@intel.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Riana Tauro <riana.tauro@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > I'm not really understanding what this is useful for, maybe concrete
> > > example in the form of driver code that uses this, and some tool or
> > > documentation steps that should be taken for recovery?

The case here is when FW underneath identified something badly corrupted on
FW land and decided that only a firmware-flashing could solve the day and
raise interrupt to the driver. At that point we want to wedge, but immediately
hint the admin the recommended action.

> > 
> > The recovery method for this particular case is to flash in a new firmware.
> > 
> > > The issues I'm seeing here is that eventually we'll get different
> > > vendor-specific recovery steps, and maybe even on the same device, and
> > > that leads us to an enumeration issue. Since it's just a string and an
> > > enum I think it'd be better to just allocate a new one every time there's
> > > a new strange recovery method instead of this opaque approach.
> > 
> > That is exactly the opposite of what we discussed so far.
> > 
> > The original idea was to add a firmware-flush recovery method which looked a bit wage since it didn't give any information on what to do exactly.
> > 
> > That's why I suggested to add a more generic vendor-specific event with refers to the documentation and system log to see what actually needs to be done.
> > 
> > Otherwise we would end up with events like firmware-flash, update FW image A, update FW image B, FW version mismatch etc....
> 
> Agree. Any newly allocated method that is specific to a vendor is going to
> be opaque anyway, since it can't be generic for all drivers. This just helps
> reduce the noise in DRM core.
> 
> And yes, there could be different vendor-specific cases for the same driver
> and the driver should be able to provide the means to distinguish between
> them.

Sim, what's your take on this then?

Should we get back to the original idea of firmware-flash?

> 
> Raag
> 
> > >> ---
> > >>  Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst | 9 +++++----
> > >>  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c      | 2 ++
> > >>  include/drm/drm_device.h       | 4 ++++
> > >>  3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > >>
> > >> diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> > >> index 263e5a97c080..c33070bdb347 100644
> > >> --- a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> > >> +++ b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> > >> @@ -421,10 +421,10 @@ Recovery
> > >>  Current implementation defines three recovery methods, out of which, drivers
> > >>  can use any one, multiple or none. Method(s) of choice will be sent in the
> > >>  uevent environment as ``WEDGED=<method1>[,..,<methodN>]`` in order of less to
> > >> -more side-effects. If driver is unsure about recovery or method is unknown
> > >> -(like soft/hard system reboot, firmware flashing, physical device replacement
> > >> -or any other procedure which can't be attempted on the fly), ``WEDGED=unknown``
> > >> -will be sent instead.
> > >> +more side-effects. If recovery method is specific to vendor
> > >> +``WEDGED=vendor-specific`` will be sent and userspace should refer to vendor
> > >> +specific documentation for further recovery steps. If driver is unsure about
> > >> +recovery or method is unknown, ``WEDGED=unknown`` will be sent instead
> > >>  
> > >>  Userspace consumers can parse this event and attempt recovery as per the
> > >>  following expectations.
> > >> @@ -435,6 +435,7 @@ following expectations.
> > >>      none            optional telemetry collection
> > >>      rebind          unbind + bind driver
> > >>      bus-reset       unbind + bus reset/re-enumeration + bind
> > >> +    vendor-specific vendor specific recovery method
> > >>      unknown         consumer policy
> > >>      =============== ========================================
> > >>  
> > >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c
> > >> index cdd591b11488..0ac723a46a91 100644
> > >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c
> > >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c
> > >> @@ -532,6 +532,8 @@ static const char *drm_get_wedge_recovery(unsigned int opt)
> > >>  		return "rebind";
> > >>  	case DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_BUS_RESET:
> > >>  		return "bus-reset";
> > >> +	case DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_VENDOR:
> > >> +		return "vendor-specific";
> > >>  	default:
> > >>  		return NULL;
> > >>  	}
> > >> diff --git a/include/drm/drm_device.h b/include/drm/drm_device.h
> > >> index 08b3b2467c4c..08a087f149ff 100644
> > >> --- a/include/drm/drm_device.h
> > >> +++ b/include/drm/drm_device.h
> > >> @@ -26,10 +26,14 @@ struct pci_controller;
> > >>   * Recovery methods for wedged device in order of less to more side-effects.
> > >>   * To be used with drm_dev_wedged_event() as recovery @method. Callers can
> > >>   * use any one, multiple (or'd) or none depending on their needs.
> > >> + *
> > >> + * Refer to "Device Wedging" chapter in Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst for more
> > >> + * details.
> > >>   */
> > >>  #define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_NONE		BIT(0)	/* optional telemetry collection */
> > >>  #define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_REBIND	BIT(1)	/* unbind + bind driver */
> > >>  #define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_BUS_RESET	BIT(2)	/* unbind + reset bus device + bind */
> > >> +#define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_VENDOR	BIT(3)	/* vendor specific recovery method */
> > >>  
> > >>  /**
> > >>   * struct drm_wedge_task_info - information about the guilty task of a wedge dev
> > >> -- 
> > >> 2.47.1
> > >>
> > > 
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-09 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-09 11:20 [PATCH v4 0/9] Handle Firmware reported Hardware Errors Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] drm: Add a vendor-specific recovery method to device wedged uevent Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 13:41   ` Simona Vetter
2025-07-09 14:09     ` Christian König
2025-07-09 14:18       ` Raag Jadav
2025-07-09 16:52         ` Rodrigo Vivi [this message]
2025-07-10  9:01           ` Simona Vetter
2025-07-10  9:37             ` Christian König
2025-07-10 10:24               ` Raag Jadav
2025-07-10 19:00                 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-07-10 21:46                   ` Raag Jadav
2025-07-11  5:17                     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-11  6:08                       ` Raag Jadav
2025-07-11  8:56                   ` Simona Vetter
2025-07-11  8:59               ` Simona Vetter
2025-07-14  5:27                 ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-14 12:33                   ` Simona Vetter
2025-07-09 14:46     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] drm/xe: Set GT as wedged before sending " Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 17:26   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] drm/xe: Add a helper function to set recovery method Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] drm/xe/xe_survivability: Refactor survivability mode Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] drm/xe/xe_survivability: Add support for Runtime " Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 23:44   ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-10  5:59     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-10 17:12       ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-11  5:23         ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] drm/xe/doc: Document device wedged and runtime survivability Riana Tauro
2025-07-11  5:39   ` Raag Jadav
2025-07-11  6:09     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-12  5:45       ` Raag Jadav
2025-07-14  9:04         ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] drm/xe: Add support to handle hardware errors Riana Tauro
2025-07-10 21:09   ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-11  5:35     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-11 17:34       ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] drm/xe/xe_hw_error: Handle CSC Firmware reported Hardware errors Riana Tauro
2025-07-11  0:36   ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-11  5:46     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-11 17:38       ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-09 11:20 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] drm/xe/xe_hw_error: Add fault injection to trigger csc error handler Riana Tauro
2025-07-11 17:41   ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2025-07-14  7:07     ` Riana Tauro
2025-07-09 12:28 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for Handle Firmware reported Hardware Errors (rev4) Patchwork
2025-07-09 12:30 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-07-09 12:44 ` ✗ CI.checksparse: warning " Patchwork
2025-07-09 13:06 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2025-07-09 15:02 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure " Patchwork

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