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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Javier González" <javier.gonz@samsung.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	hare@suse.de, sagi@grimberg.me, brauner@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz, jaegeuk@kernel.org,
	bcrl@kvack.org, dhowells@redhat.com, asml.silence@gmail.com,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, vishak.g@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2024 14:27:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241008122745.GB29639@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241007112931.afva6zzmipzdewm4@ArmHalley.local>

On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 01:29:31PM +0200, Javier González wrote:
>> That's not the point.  There is one company that drivers entirely pointless
>> marketing BS, and that one is pretty central here.  The same company
>> that said FDP has absolutely no іntent to work on Linux and fought my
>> initial attempt to make the protocol not totally unusable ony layer system.
>> And no, that's not Samsung.
>
> So you had an interaction in the working group, your feedback was not
> taking into consideration by the authors, and the result is that FDP
> cannot be supported in Linux as a consequence of that? Come on...

No, what I am saying is that the "small" FDP group that was doing the
development while keeping it doing away from the group insisted that
FDP is only for use in userspace drivers, and even getting the basis
in to properly make it suitable for a semi-multi tenant setup like
Linux io_uring passthrough was not welcome and actually fought tooth
and nail by the particular one particular company.  It a long talk to
the head of the NVMe board to even get this sorted out.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-08 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20240930182052epcas5p37edefa7556b87c3fbb543275756ac736@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-30 18:13   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] nvme: enable FDP support Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 18:37     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 12:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-30 18:13   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] block, fs: restore kiocb based write hint processing Kanchan Joshi
2024-09-30 18:13   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 14:26     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-17 14:58       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 18:29     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-01  9:20   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-01 15:58     ` James R. Bergsten
2024-10-01 16:18     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02  7:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:03         ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 15:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:17             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 15:19               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:33                 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-03 12:51                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:47                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-10-02 18:34                   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 12:55                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 21:48                       ` Keith Busch
2024-10-03 22:00                         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 22:12                           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-03 22:17                           ` Keith Busch
2024-10-04  6:21                       ` Javier González
2024-10-04  6:24                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04  6:59                           ` Javier González
2024-10-04 12:32                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-07 11:29                               ` Javier González
2024-10-08 12:27                                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-03 12:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 22:14                     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-04  5:31                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04  6:18                         ` Javier González
2024-10-04  6:27                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04  6:52                             ` Javier González
2024-10-04 12:30                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-07 10:10                                 ` Javier González
2024-10-08 10:06                                   ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-09 14:36                                     ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-10  6:40                                       ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-10  7:13                                         ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-10  9:20                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 12:22                                             ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11  8:56                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 12:21                                                 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11 16:59                                                   ` Keith Busch
2024-10-10 10:46                                           ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-10 12:27                                             ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11  8:59                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-08 12:25                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-08 14:44                                     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-09  9:28                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 15:06                                         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-10  7:07                                           ` Javier González
2024-10-10  9:13                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 11:59                                               ` Javier González
2024-10-11  9:02                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 17:08                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-14  6:21                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14  7:02                                                       ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-14  7:47                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14  9:08                                                           ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-14 11:50                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15  3:07                                                               ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-15  5:30                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10  9:10                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 16:28                                         ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-10-02 15:22             ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-01 16:23     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02  7:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 14:56         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 15:00           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-03  0:20   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-15  5:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15 15:09     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-15 15:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 14:35     ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-17 15:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 15:44         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-17 15:46           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 16:06             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-17 16:15           ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-17 16:23             ` Keith Busch

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