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From: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: Large CQE for fuse headers
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 13:53:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2efdcc9-02c0-4937-b545-d0e6f88ee679@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegs1fBX6zDeUbzK-NntwhuPkVdCoE386coODjgHuxsBuJA@mail.gmail.com>



On 10/16/24 12:54, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 at 23:27, Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
>> With only libfuse as ring user it is more like
>>
>> prep_requests(nr=N);
>> wait_cq(1); ==> we must not wait for more than 1 as more might never arrive
>> io_uring_for_each_cqe {
>> }
> 
> Right.
> 
> I think the point Pavel is trying to make is that  io_uring queue
> sizes don't have to match fuse queue size.  So we could have
> sq_entries=4, cq_entries=4 and have the server queue 64
> FUSE_URING_REQ_FETCH commands, it just has to do that in batches of 4
> max.

Hmm ok, I guess that might matter when payload is small compared to 
SQ/CQ size and the system is low in memory.

> 
>> @Miklos maybe we avoid using large CQEs/SQEs and instead set up our own
>> separate buffer for FUSE headers?
> 
> The only gain from this would be in the case where the uring is used
> for non-fuse requests as well, in which case the extra space in the
> queue entries would be unused (i.e. 48 unused bytes in the cacheline).
> I don't know if this is a realistic use case or not.  It's definitely
> a challenge to create a library API that allows this.
> 
> The disadvantage would be a more complex interface.

I don't think that complicated. In the end it is just another pointer
that needs to be mapped. We don't even need to use mmap.
At least for zero-copy we will need to the ring non-fuse requests. 
For the DDN use case, we are using another io-uring for tcp requests,
I would actually like to switch that to the same ring.


Thanks,
Bernd

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-16 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-10 20:56 Large CQE for fuse headers Bernd Schubert
2024-10-11 17:57 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11 18:35   ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-11 18:39     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11 19:03       ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-11 19:24         ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-11 21:38 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-12  1:55 ` Ming Lei
2024-10-12 14:38   ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-13 21:20     ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-14  2:44       ` Ming Lei
2024-10-14 11:10         ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-14 12:47           ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-14 13:34             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-14 15:21               ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-14 17:48                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-14 21:27                   ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-16 10:54                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-16 11:53                       ` Bernd Schubert [this message]
2024-10-16 12:24                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-10-17  0:59                         ` Ming Lei
2024-10-14 13:20           ` Bernd Schubert
2024-10-14 10:31       ` Miklos Szeredi

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