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From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Chris Evans <scarybeasts@gmail.com>, djm@mindrot.org
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] 32/64 bitness restriction for pid namespace
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:04:48 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110814120448.GA15372@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110814115549.GA3423@albatros>

Vasiliy,

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 03:55:50PM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Btw, it can be even simplier.  If we use only one flag - lock to the
> current bitness - then the code is greatly simplified.  The same
> behaviour as with 3 flags can be achieved with binary helpers:

I dislike this.  Please implement extra flags instead.

> 1) vzctl wants to create CT 101 with specific bitness.  If it is 64, it
> simply calls prctl(LOCK_BITNESS) and execve's init.  If it is 32, it
> exec's small 32 bit helper binary that does the same job, but as 32
> bits.  It is compiled from the same source files, so the helper creation
> process is trivial.

I'd rather have a few extra lines of code in the kernel.

> 2) vzctl wants to create CT 101 with the bitness its /sbin/init is.
> Then it just looks at /sbin/init and does (1) steps.

"Looking at" /sbin/init (checking the ELF header?) sounds risky to me.
This depends on when vzctl does that, though (what privileges it still
has at that point).

> > OK, you don't have to emulate the exact same behavior.  Maybe ENOSYS
> > like you implemented initially would be fine.
> 
> Hmm, so you say such emulation is not needed?

I was hoping it'd be simpler, but if it turns out to be non-trivial,
then you can drop it.

And I agree that SIGKILL would be slightly better than -ENOSYS.

Alexander

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-14 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-07 11:00 [kernel-hardening] 32/64 bitness restriction for pid namespace Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-08 17:39 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10  9:52   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 13:03     ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-08-10 13:27       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 14:26         ` Solar Designer
2011-08-10 15:02           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 15:40             ` Solar Designer
2011-08-10 16:21               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-10 16:42                 ` Solar Designer
2011-08-12 12:07                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-12 12:23                     ` Solar Designer
2011-08-13 15:12                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-13 15:19                         ` Solar Designer
2011-08-13 16:55                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-13 17:31                             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-13 19:25                               ` Solar Designer
2011-08-13 19:22                             ` Solar Designer
2011-08-14  9:50                             ` Solar Designer
2011-08-14 10:16                               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-14 11:29                                 ` Solar Designer
2011-08-14 11:55                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-14 12:04                                     ` Solar Designer [this message]
2011-08-14 12:16                                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-15 15:38                                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-15 21:33                                         ` Solar Designer
2011-08-16  6:39                                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-15 21:46                                         ` Solar Designer
2011-08-16  6:25                                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-18 10:34                                         ` Solar Designer
2011-08-18 14:42                                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-12  9:09                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov

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