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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Hoeun Ryu <hoeun.ryu@gmail.com>, PaX Team <pageexec@freemail.hu>,
	Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/8] x86: Implement __arch_rare_write_map/unmap()
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:20:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170302112032.GC19632@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKVANfBQVf66c=bJO7kRPhc7Q++L6pQk5m+6TLWm_gw8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 12:25:11PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> > There is no global override of this sort on arm64. Just having map/unap,
> > open/close, shed/unshed, etc, won't work.
> >
> > The options I can think of for arm64 are:
> >
> > * Have a separate RW alias of just the write_rarely data, that we
> >   temporarily map-in on a given CPU (using TTBR0) to perform the write.
> >   The RW alias is at a different VA to the usual RO alias, so we have to
> >   convert each pointer to its RW alias to perform the write. That's why
> >   we need __rare_write_ptr() to hide this, and can't have uninstrumented
> >   writes.
> 
> I think only the list code isn't instrumented, and that's just because
> it discards casts outside the function. There's no reason it couldn't
> be instrumented. 

Ok, it sounds like we could make this work, then.

> >   Since this would *only* map the write_rarely data, it's simple to set
> >   up, and we don't need to modify the tables at runtime.
> >
> >   I also think we can implement this generically using switch_mm() and
> >   {get,put}_user(), or specialised variants thereof.
> >
> >   Assuming we can figure out how to handle those complex cases, this is
> >   my preferred solution. :)
> 
> Would this alias be CPU-local? (I assume yes, given the "give up on on
> being per-cpu" option below..)

Yes, this would be CPU-local. It would be like mapping the idmap, or
userspace.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-02 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-27 20:42 [kernel-hardening] [RFC] Introduce rare_write() infrastructure Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:42 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 1/8] " Kees Cook
2017-02-28  8:22   ` [kernel-hardening] " Hoeun Ryu
2017-02-28 15:05     ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 10:43       ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-01 20:13         ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 20:31           ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 21:00           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-01 23:14             ` Kees Cook
2017-03-02 11:19             ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-02 16:33               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-02 19:48                 ` Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 2/8] lkdtm: add test for " Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 3/8] net: switch sock_diag handlers to rare_write() Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 4/8] x86: Implement __arch_rare_write_map/unmap() Kees Cook
2017-02-28 19:33   ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-28 21:35     ` Kees Cook
2017-02-28 22:54       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-28 23:52         ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 11:24           ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-01 20:25             ` Kees Cook
2017-03-02 11:20               ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-03-03  0:59             ` Hoeun Ryu
2017-03-01 10:59       ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 5/8] ARM: " Kees Cook
2017-03-01  1:04   ` [kernel-hardening] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-01  5:41     ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 11:30       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-02  0:08         ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 11:50       ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 6/8] list: add rare_write() list helpers Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 7/8] gcc-plugins: Add constify plugin Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 8/8] cgroups: force all struct cftype const Kees Cook

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