From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Hoeun Ryu <hoeun.ryu@gmail.com>, PaX Team <pageexec@freemail.hu>,
Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/8] x86: Implement __arch_rare_write_map/unmap()
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:20:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170302112032.GC19632@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKVANfBQVf66c=bJO7kRPhc7Q++L6pQk5m+6TLWm_gw8g@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 12:25:11PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> > There is no global override of this sort on arm64. Just having map/unap,
> > open/close, shed/unshed, etc, won't work.
> >
> > The options I can think of for arm64 are:
> >
> > * Have a separate RW alias of just the write_rarely data, that we
> > temporarily map-in on a given CPU (using TTBR0) to perform the write.
> > The RW alias is at a different VA to the usual RO alias, so we have to
> > convert each pointer to its RW alias to perform the write. That's why
> > we need __rare_write_ptr() to hide this, and can't have uninstrumented
> > writes.
>
> I think only the list code isn't instrumented, and that's just because
> it discards casts outside the function. There's no reason it couldn't
> be instrumented.
Ok, it sounds like we could make this work, then.
> > Since this would *only* map the write_rarely data, it's simple to set
> > up, and we don't need to modify the tables at runtime.
> >
> > I also think we can implement this generically using switch_mm() and
> > {get,put}_user(), or specialised variants thereof.
> >
> > Assuming we can figure out how to handle those complex cases, this is
> > my preferred solution. :)
>
> Would this alias be CPU-local? (I assume yes, given the "give up on on
> being per-cpu" option below..)
Yes, this would be CPU-local. It would be like mapping the idmap, or
userspace.
Thanks,
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-02 11:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-27 20:42 [kernel-hardening] [RFC] Introduce rare_write() infrastructure Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:42 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 1/8] " Kees Cook
2017-02-28 8:22 ` [kernel-hardening] " Hoeun Ryu
2017-02-28 15:05 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 10:43 ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-01 20:13 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 20:31 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 21:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-01 23:14 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-02 11:19 ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-02 16:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-02 19:48 ` Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 2/8] lkdtm: add test for " Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 3/8] net: switch sock_diag handlers to rare_write() Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 4/8] x86: Implement __arch_rare_write_map/unmap() Kees Cook
2017-02-28 19:33 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-28 21:35 ` Kees Cook
2017-02-28 22:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-28 23:52 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 11:24 ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-01 20:25 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-02 11:20 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-03-03 0:59 ` Hoeun Ryu
2017-03-01 10:59 ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 5/8] ARM: " Kees Cook
2017-03-01 1:04 ` [kernel-hardening] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-01 5:41 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 11:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-02 0:08 ` Kees Cook
2017-03-01 11:50 ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 6/8] list: add rare_write() list helpers Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 7/8] gcc-plugins: Add constify plugin Kees Cook
2017-02-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC][PATCH 8/8] cgroups: force all struct cftype const Kees Cook
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