From: Scotty Bauer <sbauer@eng.utah.edu>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
wmealing@redhat.com, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Abhiram Balasubramanian <abhiram@cs.utah.edu>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] SROP Mitigation: Architecture independent code for signal cookies
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 14:49:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DF48EF.2080305@eng.utah.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVLyg3CJHoFORnmJ+_0WirKck=unBQ8Zu2JUd+WhF6C5g@mail.gmail.com>
On 03/08/2016 01:58 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Scott Bauer <sbauer@eng.utah.edu> wrote:
>> This patch adds a per-process secret to the task struct which
>> will be used during signal delivery and during a sigreturn.
>> Also, logic is added in signal.c to generate, place, extract,
>> clear and verify the signal cookie.
>>
>
> Potentially silly question: it's been a while since I read the SROP
> paper, but would the technique be effectively mitigated if sigreturn
> were to zero out the whole signal frame before returning to user mode?
>
I don't know if I fully understand your question, but I'll respond anyway.
SROP is possible because the kernel doesn't know whether or not the
incoming sigreturn syscall is in response from a legitimate signal that
the kernel had previously delivered and the program handled. So essentially
these patches are an attempt to give the kernel a way to verify whether or
not the the incoming sigreturn is a valid response or a exploit trying to
hijack control of the user program.
So no, zeroing out the frame wouldn't do much because if I understand your
question correctly once we call sigreturn the kernel is going to hand off
control to wherever the sigframe tells it to so I don't think zeroing would
do much.
The reason why I zero out the cookie is so if there is a stack leak bug or
something along those lines an attacker couldnt leak the cookie and try and
derive what the per-process kernel secret is.
Hope that clarifies!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-08 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-08 20:47 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 1/3] SROP Mitigation: Architecture independent code for signal cookies Scott Bauer
2016-03-08 20:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 2/3] x86: SROP mitigation: implement " Scott Bauer
2016-03-08 21:03 ` [kernel-hardening] " One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-08 21:38 ` Scotty Bauer
2016-03-08 20:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v3 3/3] SROP mitigation: Add sysctl to disable SROP protection Scott Bauer
2016-03-08 21:00 ` [kernel-hardening] " One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-10 6:36 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-10 6:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-08 20:58 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] SROP Mitigation: Architecture independent code for signal cookies Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-08 21:49 ` Scotty Bauer [this message]
2016-03-08 21:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-08 22:06 ` Scotty Bauer
2016-03-09 22:02 ` Scotty Bauer
2016-03-08 21:04 ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-09 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 22:07 ` Scotty Bauer
2016-03-09 22:22 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-10 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
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