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From: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, WANG Chao <chaowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kexec, remove panic_on_warn kernel parameter from kdump situations
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:05:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150106080500.GD2113@darkstar.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150106015412.GB20058@redhat.com>

On 01/05/15 at 08:54pm, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 09:44:05AM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> > On 01/02/15 at 08:17am, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 08:07:20AM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 01/02/2015 07:54 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 09:57:51AM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> > > > >> panic_on_warn kernel parameter will cause the kernel to panic when a
> > > > >> WARN() is hit in the kernel.  This is not a good situation for the kdump
> > > > >> kernel because then it would be possible for the kdump kernel to panic in
> > > > >> a non-fatal WARN().
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This patch removes panic_on_warn as a kernel parameter for the kdump
> > > > >> kernel.
> > > > >>
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think modifying kexec-tools is not best place for this. It probably is better to take care of this in distribution specific scripts.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the past we have learnt that it is best that kexec-tools does least
> > > > > amount of manipulation with command line.
> > > > 
> > > > Well .. here's the question to think about: what does adding panic_on_warn to
> > > > the kdump kernel get you?  AFAICT, nothing.
> > > 
> > > Let us consider a hypothetical situation. What if we have some buggy code
> > > which will corrupt file system in certain situation and we detect that
> > > situation and throw a warning. 
> > > 
> > > In that case as a work around specifying panic_on_warn in kdump kernel
> > > will make sense as we don't want to make further progress if we hit
> > > the warning as it has potential to corrupt fs.
> > > 
> > > Again this is hypothetical but it can happen. So panic_on_warn might
> > > still be useful in kdump kernel for some corner debugging cases.
> > > 
> > > That's why I think we should do it in distribution specific scripts
> > > and that too only if user did not specify panic_on_warn for second
> > > kernel explicitly.
> > 
> > Thinking of user who use upstream kexec-tools instead of distribution toolset,
> > In case kexec --reuse-cmdline, it will copy /proc/cmdline, but user will have
> > no way to remove part of them.
> > 
> > I do want to insist on removing 'panic_on_warn' in upstream kexec-tools, but
> > we should give user an option to remove it. Something like:
> > 
> > kexec --reuse-cmdline --remove-params="panic_on_warn" will be good.
> 
> If user is using --reuse-commandline at the same time does not want some
> of the parameters from command line, then don't use --reuse-commandline.
> 
> This is overenginnering. First provide an option to reuse the commandline
> and provide another option to selectively remove some parameters from that
> commandline.
> 
> What's wrong with existing parameters of --command-line. This just allows
> user to specify whatever command line is suitable.
> 
> So, no, we should not provide --remove-params. If existing command line
> does not work for new kenrel, then user should not use
> --reuse-commandline option.

Hmm, ok. So hope one who is use panic_on_warn in 1st kernel know what he is doing
and do not simply copy the 1st kernel cmdline for 2nd kernel.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-06  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-30 14:57 [PATCH] kexec, remove panic_on_warn kernel parameter from kdump situations Prarit Bhargava
2015-01-02 12:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-01-02 13:07   ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-01-02 13:17     ` Vivek Goyal
2015-01-05  1:49       ` Simon Horman
2015-01-06  1:44       ` Dave Young
2015-01-06  1:54         ` Vivek Goyal
2015-01-06  8:05           ` Dave Young [this message]
2015-01-06 12:46             ` Baoquan He
2015-01-06 13:07               ` Vivek Goyal
2015-01-06 13:06             ` Vivek Goyal

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