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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	rppt@kernel.org,  sourabhjain@linux.ibm.com, jbouron@amazon.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, bhe@redhat.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org,
	liaoyuanhong@vivo.com,  rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	piliu@redhat.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org, graf@amazon.com,
	 mario.limonciello@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] liveupdate: skip serialization for context-preserving kexec
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 12:06:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aftm3HQ-XrraUBJU@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2vxzjytgzh5r.fsf@kernel.org>

On 05-06 17:33, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> On Wed, May 06 2026, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> 
> > On 05-06 10:31, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> >> Hi Pasha,
> >> 
> >> On Wed, May 06 2026, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> >> 
> >> > A preserve_context kexec returns to the current kernel, which
> >> > is unrelated to live update where the state is passed to the next
> >> > kernel. Skip liveupdate_reboot() in this case to avoid serialization
> >> > and prevent sessions from being left in a frozen state upon return.
> >> 
> >> Should we also stop KHO? Now it is stateless and always finalized. I am
> >
> > No. KHO preserves kernel internal memory; for context-preserved 
> > kexec, the 2nd kernel and the 1st kernel do not have overlapping 
> > memory. So, whatever the 1st kernel maintains in KHO is an internal 
> > detail of the 1st kernel. Once we return from the 2nd kernel to the 1st 
> > kernel, all KHO memory is going to stay as-is, and the 1st kernel can 
> > even perform a regular kexec or live update later.
> 
> My point is that we keep KHO data in the 1st kernel but do not pass it
> to the 2nd kernel via setup_data or the devicetree because it should not
> use that memory anyway. So essentially we add a check in
> kho_fill_kimage() and return early if preserve_context is set.

This is a good point, I think we should do that to prevent passing via 
setup_data on preserve_context kexec.

> 
> I don't think it makes much difference in practice so no strong
> opinions. Fine either way.
> 
> [...]
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Pratyush Yadav


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-06 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-06  4:32 [PATCH v1 0/3] liveupdate: serialization safety and race fixes Pasha Tatashin
2026-05-06  4:32 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] liveupdate: skip serialization for context-preserving kexec Pasha Tatashin
2026-05-06  8:31   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-06 15:12     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-05-06 15:33       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-06 16:06         ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2026-05-06  4:32 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] liveupdate: block outgoing session mutations during serialization Pasha Tatashin
2026-05-06  8:47   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-06 15:25     ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-05-06  4:32 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] liveupdate: pin sessions and handle inactive ones " Pasha Tatashin
2026-05-06  8:53   ` Pratyush Yadav

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