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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, Philipp Rudo <prudo@redhat.com>,
	Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>, Tao Liu <ltao@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Hildenbrand <dhildenb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] kdump: crashkernel reservation from CMA
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 11:47:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f95f2f30-1393-4ae1-96b1-96e4abfc368f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aDl7rHb34zIXEf6j@dwarf.suse.cz>

On 30.05.25 11:34, Jiri Bohac wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 11:11:40AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 30.05.25 11:07, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Fri 30-05-25 10:39:39, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 30.05.25 10:28, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> All that being said I would go with an additional parameter to the
>>>>> kdump cma setup - e.g. cma_sane_dma that would skip waiting and use 10s
>>>>> otherwise. That would make the optimized behavior opt in, we do not need
>>>>> to support all sorts of timeouts and also learn if this is not
>>>>> sufficient.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense?
>>>>
>>>> Just so I understand correctly, you mean extending the "crashkernel=" option
>>>> with a boolean parameter? If set, e.g., wait 1s, otherwise magic number 10?
>>>
>>> crashkernel=1G,cma,cma_sane_dma # no wait on transition
>>
>> But is no wait ok? I mean, any O_DIRECT with any device would at least take
>> a bit, no?
>>
>> Of course, there is a short time between the crash and actually triggerying
>> kdump.
>>
>>> crashkernel=1G,cma # wait on transition with e.g. 10s timeout
>>
>> In general, would work for me.
> 
> I don't like extending the crashkernel= syntax like this.
> It would make hooking into the generic parsing code in
> parse_crashkernel() really ugly. The syntax is already
> convoluted as is and hard enough to explain in the documentation.

Would another boolean flag (on top of the other one you are adding) 
really make this significantly more ugly?

> 
> Also I don't see how adding a boolean knob is better than adding
> one that allows setting any arbitrary timeout. It has less
> flexibility and all the drawbacks of having an extra knob.

I guess Michals point is that specifying the higher-level problem and 
giving less flexibility mioght actually be less confusing for users.

> 
> I am inclined to just setting the fixed delay to 10s for now and
> adding a sysfs knob later if someone asks for it.
> 
> Would that work for you?

Sure. We could always add such a flag later if it's really a problem for 
someone.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-20 16:48 [PATCH v2 0/5] kdump: crashkernel reservation from CMA Jiri Bohac
2025-02-20 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] Add a new optional ",cma" suffix to the crashkernel= command line option Jiri Bohac
2025-03-03  1:51   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-20 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] kdump: implement reserve_crashkernel_cma Jiri Bohac
2025-02-20 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] kdump, documentation: describe craskernel CMA reservation Jiri Bohac
2025-03-03  1:54   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-20 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] kdump: wait for DMA to finish when using CMA Jiri Bohac
2025-03-03  2:02   ` Baoquan He
2025-03-11 12:00     ` Jiri Bohac
2025-02-20 16:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] x86: implement crashkernel cma reservation Jiri Bohac
2025-03-03  2:08 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] kdump: crashkernel reservation from CMA Baoquan He
2025-03-03  8:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 14:17   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-04  4:20     ` Baoquan He
2025-05-28 21:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-29  7:46         ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-29  9:19           ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-30  8:06           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-30  8:28             ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-30  8:39               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-30  9:07                 ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-30  9:11                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-30  9:26                     ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-30  9:28                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-30  9:34                     ` Jiri Bohac
2025-05-30  9:47                       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-30  9:54                         ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-30 10:06                         ` Jiri Bohac
2025-05-29 16:22         ` Jiri Bohac
2025-03-12 15:36   ` Jiri Bohac

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