From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Christoffer Dall <cdall@cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] kvm: add device control API
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:14:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130221001437.GA29376@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361404400.31212.12@snotra>
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 05:53:20PM -0600, Scott Wood wrote:
> >Why exactly you need to set attributes Scott?
>
> That's best answered by looking at patch 6/6 and discussing the
> actual attributes that are defined so far.
>
> The need to set the base address of the registers is
> straightforward. When ARM added their special ioctl for this, we
> discussed it being eventually replaced with a more general API (in
> fact, that was the reason they put "ARM" in the name).
>
> Access to device registers was originally intended for debugging,
> and eventually migration. It turned out to also be very useful for
> injecting MSIs -- nothing special needed to be done. It Just
> Works(tm) the same way it does in hardware, with an MMIO write from
> a PCI device to a specific MPIC register. Again, irqfd may
> complicate this, but there's no need for QEMU-generated MSIs to have
> to take a circuitous path.
>
> Finally, there's the interrupt source attribute. Even if we get rid
> of that, we'll need MPIC-specific documentation on how to flatten
> the IRQ numberspace, and if we ever have a cascaded PIC situation
> things could get ugly since there's no way to identify a specific
> IRQ controller in KVM_IRQ_LINE.
>
> >Also related to this question is the point of avoiding the
> >implementation of devices to be spread across userspace and the kernel
> >(this is one point Avi brought up often). If the device emulation
> >is implemented entirely in the kernel, all is necessary are initial
> >values of device registers (and retrieval of those values later for
> >savevm/migration).
>
> MPIC emulation is entirely in the kernel with this patchset --
> though the register that lets you reset cores will likely need to be
> kicked back to QEMU.
>
> >It is then not necessary to set device attributes on a live guest and
> >deal with the complications associated with that.
>
> Which complications?
>
> -Scott
Semantics of individual attribute writes, for one.
Locking versus currently executing VCPUs, for another (see how
KVM_SET_IRQ's RCU usage, for instance, that is something should be
shared).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-21 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-14 5:49 [RFC PATCH 0/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: in-kernel irqchip Scott Wood
2013-02-14 5:49 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] kvm: add device control API Scott Wood
2013-02-18 12:21 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-18 23:01 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-19 0:43 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-02-19 12:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-19 15:51 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-02-19 21:16 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-20 13:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-20 21:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-20 22:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-20 23:53 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-21 0:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-02-21 1:28 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-21 6:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-21 23:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-22 2:00 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-23 15:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-26 0:27 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-21 2:05 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-21 8:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-22 2:17 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-24 15:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 15:23 ` Alexander Graf
2013-02-26 2:38 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-20 21:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-20 23:20 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-21 0:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-21 0:33 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-25 1:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-02-25 13:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 15:29 ` Alexander Graf
2013-02-19 0:44 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-02-19 0:53 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-19 5:50 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-02-19 12:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-19 20:16 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-20 2:16 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-02-24 13:12 ` Marc Zyngier
2013-03-06 0:59 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-03-06 1:20 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-06 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-03-06 3:36 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-06 4:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-03-06 10:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-14 5:49 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] kvm/ppc: add a notifier chain for vcpu creation/destruction Scott Wood
2013-02-14 5:49 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: import hw/openpic.c from QEMU Scott Wood
2013-02-14 5:49 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: remove some obviously unneeded code Scott Wood
2013-02-14 5:49 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: adapt to kernel style and environment Scott Wood
2013-02-14 5:49 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: in-kernel MPIC emulation Scott Wood
2013-03-21 8:28 ` Alexander Graf
2013-03-21 14:43 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 14:52 ` Alexander Graf
2013-02-18 12:04 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: in-kernel irqchip Gleb Natapov
2013-02-18 23:05 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] device control and in-kernel MPIC Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] kvm: add device control API Scott Wood
2013-04-02 6:59 ` tiejun.chen
[not found] ` <1364923807.24520.2@snotra>
2013-04-03 1:28 ` tiejun.chen
[not found] ` <1364952853.8690.3@snotra>
2013-04-03 1:42 ` tiejun.chen
2013-04-03 1:02 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-03 1:19 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 2:17 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-03 13:22 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-03 17:37 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 17:39 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-03 21:03 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: import hw/openpic.c from QEMU Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: remove some obviously unneeded code Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: adapt to kernel style and environment Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: in-kernel MPIC emulation Scott Wood
2013-04-01 22:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: add KVM_CAP_IRQ_MPIC Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] device control and in-kernel MPIC Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] kvm: add device control API Scott Wood
2013-04-03 15:13 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 10:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-04 23:47 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-08 10:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-05 1:02 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-08 10:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-08 5:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-09 0:50 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: import hw/openpic.c from QEMU Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: remove some obviously unneeded code Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: adapt to kernel style and environment Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: in-kernel MPIC emulation Scott Wood
2013-04-03 15:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-03 20:58 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-04 5:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-04 23:33 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-08 10:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-03 16:19 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-03 21:38 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 21:58 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-03 22:07 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 22:12 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-03 22:54 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-04 9:42 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-03 23:23 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-08 6:30 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-09 0:49 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 1:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: add KVM_CAP_IRQ_MPIC Scott Wood
2013-04-04 12:54 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 18:41 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-04 22:30 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 22:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-05 6:09 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-05 17:11 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] device-control and in-kernel MPIC Scott Wood
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] kvm: add device control API Scott Wood
2013-04-25 9:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-25 10:47 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-25 12:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-25 13:45 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-25 13:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-25 16:51 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-25 18:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-25 18:59 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-26 9:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-26 9:55 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-26 9:57 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: import hw/openpic.c from QEMU Scott Wood
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: remove some obviously unneeded code Scott Wood
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: adapt to kernel style and environment Scott Wood
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: in-kernel MPIC emulation Scott Wood
2013-04-13 0:08 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] kvm/ppc/mpic: add KVM_CAP_IRQ_MPIC Scott Wood
2013-04-15 5:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-15 17:52 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-16 3:59 ` Paul Mackerras
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