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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/8] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:46:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251101014644.7hys77jw64ynewwu@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DDWH24WOQG3F.1VS7MT0SKPWIL@google.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 11:30:54AM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> Rewording my comments from:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251029-verw-vm-v1-1-babf9b961519@linux.intel.com/
> 
> On Fri Oct 31, 2025 at 12:30 AM UTC, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> >
> > TSA mitigation:
> >
> >   d8010d4ba43e ("x86/bugs: Add a Transient Scheduler Attacks mitigation")
> >
> > introduced VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS for guests on AMD CPUs. Currently on Intel
> > CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS is being used for guests which has a much broader scope
> > (kernel->user also).
> >
> > Make mitigations on Intel consistent with TSA. This would help handling the
> > guest-only mitigations better in future.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> > [sean: make CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM mutually exclusive with the MMIO mitigation]
> > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> 
> I think this is a clear improvement. Now that X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF
> has a clear scope, can we also update the comment on its definition in
> cpufeatures.h? I.e. say that it's specifically about exit to user.

Does this suffice?

diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
index 08ed5a2e46a5..e842f27a1108 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
@@ -321,6 +321,7 @@
 #endif
 .endm
 
+/* Primarily used in exit-to-userspace path */
 #define CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS \
 	__CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF
 

> This also seems like a good moment to update the comment on
> verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected to mention the _VM flag too.

As we have 3 different flags, referring them with X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_*
should be okay?

diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
index 723666a1357e..51dec95a9af5 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
@@ -490,7 +490,7 @@ static enum rfds_mitigations rfds_mitigation __ro_after_init =
 
 /*
  * Set if any of MDS/TAA/MMIO/RFDS are going to enable VERW clearing
- * through X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF on kernel and guest entry.
+ * through X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_* on kernel and guest entry.
  */
 static bool verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected __ro_after_init;
 

> Also, where we set vmx->disable_fb_clear in vmx_update_fb_clear_dis(),
> it still refers to X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF, is that wrong?

It looks correct to me. The only reason X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF is used
in vmx_update_fb_clear_dis() is to check if host has enabled its
exit-to-userspace mitigation for some reason, and allow guest to also use
VERW.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-01  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-31  0:30 [PATCH v4 0/8] x86/bugs: KVM: L1TF and MMIO Stale Data cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 11:30   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-01  1:46     ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2025-11-03 18:18   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-07 19:05     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-11 22:03       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-12 10:23         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 18:19           ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-12 18:17       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-07 18:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 18:02     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] x86/bugs: Decouple ALTERNATIVE usage from VERW macro definition Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 11:37   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31 17:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-01  4:13   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 17:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-03 17:40       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-12 12:15       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] x86/bugs: Use an X86_FEATURE_xxx flag for the MMIO Stale Data mitigation Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 11:44   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31 21:47     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-03 10:49       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31 22:28   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31 22:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 22:50       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-12 14:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 18:24     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] KVM: VMX: Handle MMIO Stale Data in VM-Enter assembly via ALTERNATIVES_2 Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 12:32   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31 21:44     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-03 10:51       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31 23:55   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-01  3:41     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03  9:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-03 17:37       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 17:46   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-12 16:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 17:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-12 18:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 20:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-12 23:01           ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-13 14:20           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-13 22:01             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] x86/bugs: KVM: Move VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS into SVM as SVM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 12:34   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-13 15:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-13 15:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-13 16:19       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] KVM: VMX: Bundle all L1 data cache flush mitigation code together Sean Christopherson
2025-11-03 18:26   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] KVM: VMX: Disable L1TF L1 data cache flush if CONFIG_CPU_MITIGATIONS=n Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 12:37   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31  0:30 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] KVM: x86: Unify L1TF flushing under per-CPU variable Sean Christopherson
2025-10-31 11:22 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] x86/bugs: KVM: L1TF and MMIO Stale Data cleanups Brendan Jackman
2025-10-31 17:36   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-04 10:58     ` Brendan Jackman

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