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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Chang S. Bae" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
	seanjc@google.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chao.gao@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/21] x86/fpu: Ignore APX when copying from/to guest FPU
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 12:24:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b9fd29d-74cc-45ca-98cd-e5bf4875357a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfa8A5xxr0kPT_r4p1cCokW2OXgeHySN80ALOSM-B65d5g@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/14/26 19:33, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> If we _just_ look at making a good, consistent ABI, I don't think
>> XFEATURE_APX is special. The registers can be managed by XSAVE. There's
>> a KVM XSAVE ABI. Why would *this* feature be special from all of the others?
> 
> Indeed, it's not special from the userspace point of view.
> KVM_GET_XSAVE and KVM_SET_XSAVE *do* include APX, but the copy needs
> to be done from struct kvm_vcpu rather than from the guest FPU state
> (which as of this series means arch/x86/kvm/ instead of
> arch/x86/fpu/core/).
> 
> This is in the commit message, but it might be easy to miss:
> "Therefore, let KVM handle the APX feature on its own *when executing
> ioctls to get and set the virtual machine's XSAVE state*" (emphasis
> added).
> 
>> I don't think the fact that the kernel is using those registers as GPRs
>> changes what makes a good ABI. That's a kernel-internal implementation
>> detail.
>>
>> Now, that's not to say we should ignore kernel complexity. Maybe making
>> a nice ABI is so nasty to the kernel internals that we shouldn't bother.
>> I _think_ that's what you're suggesting.
> 
> No no, I'm only suggesting to keep the complexity out of FPU code
> until we have an idea of what the needs are for non-guest FPU state.

Hi Dave, can you confirm that this is okay for you?

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-27 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-12  1:14 [PATCH v4 00/21] KVM: x86: Enable APX for guests Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/21] KVM: VMX: Macrofy GPR swapping in __vmx_vcpu_run() Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/21] KVM: SVM: Macrofy GPR swapping in __svm_vcpu_run() Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/21] KVM: SEV: Macrofy GPR swapping in __svm_sev_es_vcpu_run() Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/21] KVM: x86: Extend VCPU registers for EGPRs Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/21] KVM: VMX: Save guest EGPRs in VCPU cache Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/21] x86/fpu: Ignore APX when copying from/to guest FPU Chang S. Bae
2026-05-13 17:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 19:10   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-14 16:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-14 17:17       ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-14 17:33         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-27 10:24           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2026-05-15  2:04       ` Chang S. Bae
2026-05-15  8:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/21] KVM: x86: Support APX state for XSAVE ABI Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/21] KVM: VMX: Refactor VMX instruction information access Chang S. Bae
2026-05-22 17:26   ` [PATCH v4a " Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/21] KVM: VMX: Refactor instruction information decoding Chang S. Bae
2026-05-22 17:52   ` Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/21] KVM: VMX: Refactor register index retrieval from exit qualification Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/21] KVM: VMX: Support instruction information extension Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/21] KVM: nVMX: Propagate the extended instruction info field Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/21] KVM: x86: Support EGPR accessing and tracking for emulator Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/21] KVM: x86: Handle EGPR index and REX2-incompatible opcodes Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/21] KVM: x86: Support REX2-prefixed opcode decode Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/21] KVM: x86: Reject EVEX-prefixed instructions Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/21] KVM: x86: Guard valid XCR0.APX settings Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:14 ` [PATCH v4 18/21] KVM: x86: Expose APX foundation feature to guests Chang S. Bae
2026-05-29 15:16   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 15:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-12  1:15 ` [PATCH v4 19/21] KVM: x86: Expose APX sub-features " Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:15 ` [PATCH v4 20/21] KVM: x86: selftests: Add APX state and ABI test Chang S. Bae
2026-05-12  1:15 ` [PATCH v4 21/21] KVM: x86: selftests: Add APX state handling and XCR0 sanity checks Chang S. Bae
2026-05-13 17:52 ` [PATCH v4 00/21] KVM: x86: Enable APX for guests Paolo Bonzini

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