From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Cc: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
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<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <kai.huang@intel.com>,
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<xiaoyao.li@intel.com>, <tony.lindgren@intel.com>,
<binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>, <dmatlack@google.com>,
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<chao.p.peng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] KVM: TDX: Decouple TDX init mem region from kvm_gmem_populate()
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:46:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <687e7d042afa_203db29463@iweiny-mobl.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH-DprCYLCYK3T7fQ23xAkTb9HdMbbp3TJ=-QgenNz8=mg@mail.gmail.com>
Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 11:41 AM Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 2:15 AM Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 09:10:42AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 08:46:59AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > > > > folio = __kvm_gmem_get_pfn(file, slot, index, &pfn, &is_prepared, &max_order);
> > > > > > > If max_order > 0 is returned, the next invocation of __kvm_gmem_populate() for
> > > > > > > GFN+1 will return is_prepared == true.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't see any reason to try and make the current code truly work with hugepages.
> > > > > > Unless I've misundertood where we stand, the correctness of hugepage support is
> > > > > Hmm. I thought your stand was to address the AB-BA lock issue which will be
> > > > > introduced by huge pages, so you moved the get_user_pages() from vendor code to
> > > > > the common code in guest_memfd :)
> > > > >
> > > > > > going to depend heavily on the implementation for preparedness. I.e. trying to
> > > > > > make this all work with per-folio granulartiy just isn't possible, no?
> > > > > Ah. I understand now. You mean the right implementation of __kvm_gmem_get_pfn()
> > > > > should return is_prepared at 4KB granularity rather than per-folio granularity.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, huge pages still has dependency on the implementation for preparedness.
> > > > Looks with [3], is_prepared will not be checked in kvm_gmem_populate().
> > > >
> > > > > Will you post code [1][2] to fix non-hugepages first? Or can I pull them to use
> > > > > as prerequisites for TDX huge page v2?
> > > > So, maybe I can use [1][2][3] as the base.
> > > >
> > > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/aG_pLUlHdYIZ2luh@google.com/
> > > > > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/aHEwT4X0RcfZzHlt@google.com/
> > >
> > > IMO, unless there is any objection to [1], it's un-necessary to
> > > maintain kvm_gmem_populate for any arch (even for SNP). All the
> > > initial memory population logic needs is the stable pfn for a given
> > > gfn, which ideally should be available using the standard mechanisms
> > > such as EPT/NPT page table walk within a read KVM mmu lock (This patch
> > > already demonstrates it to be working).
> > >
> > > It will be hard to clean-up this logic once we have all the
> > > architectures using this path.
> >
> > Did you mean to say 'not hard'?
>
> Let me rephrase my sentence:
> It will be harder to remove kvm_gmem_populate if we punt it to the future.
Indeed if more folks start using it.
Ira
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-21 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-03 6:26 [RFC PATCH] KVM: TDX: Decouple TDX init mem region from kvm_gmem_populate() Yan Zhao
2025-07-03 16:51 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-09 23:21 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-10 16:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 1:41 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-11 14:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 4:36 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-11 15:17 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 15:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 16:34 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 18:38 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-11 19:49 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 20:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 20:25 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-11 22:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 23:04 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 23:11 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-15 0:41 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 23:08 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-14 23:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 18:46 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-12 17:38 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 6:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-14 15:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 16:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-15 1:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-18 9:14 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-18 15:57 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-18 18:42 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-18 18:59 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-21 17:46 ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2025-07-28 9:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-29 0:45 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-29 1:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-29 16:33 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-05 0:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-05 1:20 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-05 14:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-05 19:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 0:09 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-02 21:01 ` Ira Weiny
2025-10-03 0:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03 15:31 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-14 3:20 ` Yan Zhao
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