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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: mlevitsk@redhat.com, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: d.riley@proxmox.com, jon@nutanix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/28] KVM: nVMX: allow MBEC with EVMCS
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2026 17:29:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fr35j6zi.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9176c891af8dc496f02c1e8cbef53976576ae7e1.camel@redhat.com>

mlevitsk@redhat.com writes:

> On Tue, 2026-05-05 at 21:52 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> From: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
>> 
>> Extend EVMCS1_SUPPORTED_2NDEXEC to allow MBEC and EVMCS to coexist.
>> Presenting both EVMCS and MBEC simultaneously causes KVM to filter out
>> MBEC and not present it as a supported control to the guest, preventing
>> performance gains from MBEC when Windows HVCI is enabled.
>> 
>> The guest may choose not to use MBEC (e.g., if the admin does not enable
>> Windows HVCI / Memory Integrity), but if they use traditional nested
>> virt (Hyper-V, WSL2, etc.), having EVMCS exposed is important for
>> improving nested guest performance. IOW allowing MBEC and EVMCS to
>> coexist provides maximum optionality to Windows users without
>> overcomplicating VM administration.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
>> Message-ID: <20251223054806.1611168-8-jon@nutanix.com>
>> Tested-by: David Riley <d.riley@proxmox.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/hyperv_evmcs.h | 1 +
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/hyperv_evmcs.h b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/hyperv_evmcs.h
>> index fc7c4e7bd1bf..bc08fe40590e 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/hyperv_evmcs.h
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/hyperv_evmcs.h
>> @@ -87,6 +87,7 @@
>>   SECONDARY_EXEC_PT_CONCEAL_VMX | \
>>   SECONDARY_EXEC_BUS_LOCK_DETECTION | \
>>   SECONDARY_EXEC_NOTIFY_VM_EXITING | \
>> + SECONDARY_EXEC_MODE_BASED_EPT_EXEC | \
>>   SECONDARY_EXEC_ENCLS_EXITING)
>>  
>>  #define EVMCS1_SUPPORTED_3RDEXEC (0ULL)
>
> Unrelated to this patch:
>
> I haven't paid much attention to this particular area of KVM, but 'EVMCSv1_LEGACY' caught my attention now.
>
> According to the Hypervisor Top Level Function Specificaiton v5.0C and v6.0b that I have, there is only one version defined,
> version 1. 
> Is there a reason on why we choose to call it "Legacy"?
>

This is the patch:
https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220830133737.1539624-8-vkuznets@redhat.com/

which was eventually supposed to be supplimented by something like
https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220824030138.3524159-10-seanjc@google.com/

> Also I see:
>
> Enlightened VMCSv1 doesn't support these:
> ....
>  * TSC_MULTIPLIER = 0x00002032,
>
> And yet I see it defined:
>
>  EVMCS1_FIELD(TSC_MULTIPLIER, tsc_multiplier,
>  HV_VMX_ENLIGHTENED_CLEAN_FIELD_CONTROL_GRP2),
>

The problem is that EVMCSv1 spec came with a certain feature set and we
were expecting that it is a closed list and the revision id will go up
if needed. That turned out to not be the case, e.g. see

"21	Indicates support for non-zero value of the 0x00002802 (GuestIa32DebugCtl) field in the VMCS."
bit definition for 0x4000000A.EAX

As for TSC_MULTIPLIER, I believe that the field was missing in the spec
initially but then it got added. After some git-blaming I found the
following commit:

commit 96d6955d215e6234bb820fd23756b2a9b77aef0f
Author: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri Nov 4 15:47:06 2022 +0100

    KVM: nVMX: Invert 'unsupported by eVMCSv1' check

which says:

"""
    From all the controls, SECONDARY_EXEC_TSC_SCALING requires special
    handling as it's actually present in eVMCSv1 definition but is not
    currently supported for Hyper-V-on-KVM, just for KVM-on-Hyper-V. As
    evmcs_supported_ctrls will be used for both scenarios, just add it
    there instead of EVMCS1_SUPPORTED_2NDEXEC.

"""

I have to admit I forgot the gory details on why we don't enable it for
Hyper-V-on-KVM. My guess is that KVM part is simple but we will need a
new enablement method from VMM (KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS2 or
something) to not break migration.

>
> Anyway I haven't found any restrictions on the execution controls in the EVMCS in the Microsoft's spec, 
> so it is unlikely that it is not supported.
>
> So:
> Reviewed-by: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
>
> Best regards,
> 	Maxim Levitsky
>

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-02 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-05 19:51 [PATCH v6 00/28] KVM: combined patchset for MBEC/GMET support Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-05 19:51 ` [PATCH 01/28] KVM: TDX/VMX: rework EPT_VIOLATION_EXEC_FOR_RING3_LIN into PROT_MASK Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:19   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 02/28] KVM: x86/mmu: remove SPTE_PERM_MASK Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:20   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 03/28] KVM: x86/mmu: free up bit 10 of PTEs in preparation for MBEC Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:20   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 04/28] KVM: x86/mmu: shuffle high bits of SPTEs " Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:20   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 05/28] KVM: x86/mmu: remove SPTE_EPT_* Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:21   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 06/28] KVM: x86/mmu: merge make_spte_{non,}executable Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:22   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 07/28] KVM: x86/mmu: rename and clarify BYTE_MASK Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:22   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 08/28] KVM: x86/mmu: separate more EPT/non-EPT permission_fault() Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-07 14:35   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-02 14:22   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 09/28] KVM: x86/mmu: introduce ACC_READ_MASK Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:23   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 10/28] KVM: x86/mmu: pass PFERR_GUEST_PAGE/FINAL_MASK to kvm_translate_gpa Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:23   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 11/28] KVM: x86/mmu: pass pte_access for final nGPA->GPA walk Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:24   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 12/28] KVM: x86: make translate_nested_gpa vendor-specific Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:24   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 13/28] KVM: x86/mmu: split XS/XU bits for EPT Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:24   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 14/28] KVM: x86/mmu: move cr4_smep to base role Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:25   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 15/28] KVM: VMX: enable use of MBEC Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-07 14:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-02 14:26   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 16/28] KVM: nVMX: pass advanced EPT violation vmexit info to guest Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:26   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 17/28] KVM: nVMX: pass PFERR_USER_MASK to MMU on EPT violations Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:27   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 18/28] KVM: x86/mmu: add support for MBEC to EPT page table walks Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:28   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 19/28] KVM: nVMX: advertise MBEC to nested guests Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:28   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 20/28] KVM: nVMX: allow MBEC with EVMCS Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:28   ` mlevitsk
2026-06-02 15:29     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 21/28] KVM: x86/mmu: propagate access mask from root pages down Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:29   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 22/28] KVM: x86/mmu: introduce cpu_role bit for availability of PFEC.I/D Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:29   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 23/28] KVM: SVM: add GMET bit definitions Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:30   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 24/28] KVM: x86/mmu: hard code more bits in kvm_init_shadow_npt_mmu Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:30   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 25/28] KVM: x86/mmu: add support for GMET to NPT page table walks Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:31   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 26/28] KVM: SVM: enable GMET and set it in MMU role Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:31   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 27/28] KVM: SVM: work around errata 1218 Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:31   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-05 19:52 ` [PATCH 28/28] KVM: nSVM: enable GMET for guests Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 14:32   ` mlevitsk
2026-05-07 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 00/28] KVM: combined patchset for MBEC/GMET support Sean Christopherson
2026-05-07 17:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 10:53 ` David Riley
2026-05-11 10:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 11:07     ` David Riley
2026-05-14  2:11       ` Chao Gao
2026-05-14 19:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-12 14:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-12 16:34     ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-15 14:53     ` David Riley
2026-05-15 18:31       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-19  8:02         ` David Riley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-04-30 15:07 [PATCH v5 " Paolo Bonzini
2026-04-30 15:07 ` [PATCH 20/28] KVM: nVMX: allow MBEC with EVMCS Paolo Bonzini
2026-04-28 11:09 [PATCH v4 00/28] KVM: combined patchset for MBEC/GMET support Paolo Bonzini
2026-04-28 11:09 ` [PATCH 20/28] KVM: nVMX: allow MBEC with EVMCS Paolo Bonzini

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