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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: x86/mmu: Do not recover dirty-tracked NX Huge Pages
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:39:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3ZjzZdI6Ej6XwW4@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d636e626-ae33-0119-545d-a0b60cbe0ff7@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 11/7/22 22:21, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm, and the memslot heuristic doesn't address the recovery worker holding mmu_lock
> > for write.  On a non-preemptible kernel, rwlock_needbreak() is always false, e.g.
> > the worker won't yield to vCPUs that are trying to handle non-fast page faults.
> > The worker should eventually reach steady state by unaccounting everything, but
> > that might take a while.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean here?  The recovery worker will still decrease
> to_zap by 1 on every unaccounted NX hugepage, and go to sleep after it
> reaches 0.

Right, what I'm saying is that this approach is still sub-optimal because it does
all that work will holding mmu_lock for write.  

> Also, David's test used a 10-second halving time for the recovery thread.
> With the 1 hour time the effect would Perhaps the 1 hour time used by
> default by KVM is overly conservative, but 1% over 10 seconds is certainly a
> lot larger an effect, than 1% over 1 hour.

It's not the CPU usage I'm thinking of, it's the unnecessary blockage of MMU
operations on other tasks/vCPUs.  Given that this is related to dirty logging,
odds are very good that there will be a variety of operations in flight, e.g.
KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG.  If the recovery ratio is aggressive, and/or there are a lot
of pages to recover, the recovery thread could hold mmu_lock until a reched is
needed.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-17 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-03 20:44 [PATCH v2] KVM: x86/mmu: Do not recover dirty-tracked NX Huge Pages David Matlack
2022-11-07 21:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-17 16:28   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-11-17 16:39     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-11-17 16:57       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-11-17 17:03         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-17 17:15           ` David Matlack
2022-11-17 19:07             ` Sean Christopherson

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