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From: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/13] KVM: arm64: Detect (via ACPI) and initialize HACDBSIRQ
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 18:19:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akP6jAargbR5jUUu@LeoBrasDK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akPoyAGX5_ankwWD@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 09:03:20AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 03:50:17PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 10:22:12AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > > If we need to initialize the IRQ I'd really like to see device tree
> > > bindings for HACDBSIRQ as well. Pretty much any system us plebs can get
> > > our hands on is gonna be DT anyway.
> > 
> > Agree. I started out with ACPI because that's what the main target is, as 
> > dirty-logging is focused in Live Migration, which is usually more 
> > appreciated in the server space, which generally uses ACPI.
> > 
> > I spoke to some people, and I could not hear of anyone releasing a product 
> > based in DT that would implement this yet, so I postponed the DT 
> > enablement.
> 
> Nested virt is always a good example. In some distant future KVM could
> expose FEAT_HACDBS to the L1 hypervisor, and the VMM may be using DT
> instead of ACPI (like kvmtool).

Oh, good point.

> 
> > > 
> > > > +static irqreturn_t hacdbsirq_handler(int irq, void *pcpu)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	u64 cons = read_sysreg_s(SYS_HACDBSCONS_EL2);
> > > > +	unsigned long err = FIELD_GET(HACDBSCONS_EL2_ERR_REASON, cons);
> > > > +
> > > > +	switch (err) {
> > > > +	case HACDBSCONS_EL2_ERR_REASON_NOF:
> > > > +		this_cpu_write(hacdbs_pcp.status, HACDBS_IDLE);
> > > > +		break;
> > > > +	case HACDBSCONS_EL2_ERR_REASON_IPAHACF:
> > > > +		/* When size not a power of two >= 4k, exit with reserved TTLW */
> > > > +		int index = FIELD_GET(HACDBSCONS_EL2_INDEX, cons);
> > > > +
> > > > +		if (index >= this_cpu_read(hacdbs_pcp.size)) {
> > > > +			this_cpu_write(hacdbs_pcp.status, HACDBS_IDLE);
> > > > +			break;
> > > > +		}
> > > > +		fallthrough;
> > > > +	case HACDBSCONS_EL2_ERR_REASON_STRUCTF:
> > > > +	case HACDBSCONS_EL2_ERR_REASON_IPAF:
> > > > +		this_cpu_write(hacdbs_pcp.status, HACDBS_ERROR);
> > > > +		break;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +
> > > > +	return IRQ_HANDLED;
> > > > +}
> > > 
> > > I have a pretty extreme distaste for creating a state machine between
> > > the callsite and the IRQ handler. The callsite should poll HACDBS for
> > > completion. The thread has nothing better to do anyway.
> > 
> > Well, there is one argument it could just wait and save some energy, but I 
> > agree it is not relevant in server space.
> 
> I wouldn't suggest polling in a tight loop :) I'd say use something like
> __mdelay() to get the core into a low-power state w/o using a naked WFI.
> In fact, that already uses WFxT under the hood.

Awesome!

> 
> > The main reason I did this is 
> > because I am planning on later doing an improved version of this that would 
> > clean the dirty-bit *while* running the guest, and having the IRQ is needed 
> > for exiting guest so we can notify userspace the cleaning is done. So I 
> > laid the HACDBSIRQ infra here so we don't have both polling and IRQ options 
> > happening. 
> > 
> > That idea would require us to add new API (a return value for 'cleaned'), 
> > and also a new flag for the clean ioctl. We also need the VMM to 
> > implement that, but then we get a proper cpu usage of cleaning time.
> >
> > I wanted to start with a backwards compatible version, and do the above 
> > idea once I put my hands in hardware that implements HACDBS, so I can 
> > properly measure how much performance we get on above strategy.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> 
> Yeah, I'd want to see some extremely compelling performance numbers for
> this approach before considering it, alongside the necessary VMM patches
> to actually activate it.
> 
> Seems likely to me that the VMM will want the background thread back
> ASAP that calls the clean ioctl so you'll need to work out how to cope
> with idle vCPUs in that case.

Fair point, HACDBS should be disabled if the vcpu gets scheduled-out, so we 
would need to be sure the vcpus stay scheduled, or the cleaning may take 
too long.

> 
> Even still, with this hypothetical approach I'd expect KVM to inspect
> the HACDBS state on every exit. The IRQ is just a convenient kick back
> out to the main KVM_RUN loop.

Got it. Will use the HACDBSCONS register instead to get that info on 
stopping.

Thanks!
Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-30 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-29 11:17 [PATCH v2 00/13] KVM Dirty-bit cleaning hw accelerator (HACDBS) Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] KVM: arm64: HDBSS bits Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 12:57     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] KVM: arm64: Enable eager hugepage splitting if HDBSS is available Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:36   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 14:47     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 17:06       ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-30 12:58         ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-30 15:44           ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-30 17:09             ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] arm64/cpufeature: Add system-wide FEAT_HACDBS detection Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] arm64/sysreg: Add HACDBS consumer and base registers Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] KVM: arm64: Detect (via ACPI) and initialize HACDBSIRQ Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 15:43     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 16:52       ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-06-30 14:52         ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 17:22   ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-30 14:50     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-30 16:03       ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-30 17:19         ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] KVM: arm64: dirty_bit: Add base FEAT_HACDBS cleaning routine Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 15:54     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 17:36   ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-30 14:59     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] kvm: Add arch-generic interface for hw-accelerated dirty-bitmap cleaning Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:38   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 16:07     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] KVM: arm64: Add hardware-accelerated dirty-bitmap cleaning routine Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:45   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 16:49     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] KVM: arm64: Dirty-bitmap: avoid splitting previously split blocks Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 17:07     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] kvm/dirty_ring: Introduce get_memslot and move helpers to header Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:17 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] kvm/dirty_ring: Add arch-generic interface for hw-accelerated dirty-ring cleaning Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:49   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 17:09     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] KVM: arm64: Add hardware-accelerated dirty-ring cleaning routine Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:49   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 17:26     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] KVM: arm64: Enable KVM_HW_DIRTY_BIT Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 11:52   ` sashiko-bot

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