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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Peter Fang <peter.fang@intel.com>
Cc: Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, djbw@kernel.org,  kas@kernel.org,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, yilun.xu@intel.com,
	 xiaoyao.li@intel.com, sohil.mehta@intel.com,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com,  kishen.maloor@intel.com,
	tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com,  baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
	zhenzhong.duan@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/17] KVM: TDX: Add in-kernel Quote generation
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:48:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alEGIrWhQvzf2wAV@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260710125211.GB2816371@pedri>

On Fri, Jul 10, 2026, Peter Fang wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 02:37:55PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026, Xu Yilun wrote:
> > And is keying off tdx_quote_enabled() and only tdx_quote_enabled() backwards
> > compatible?  How do we know that cutting userspace out of the loop wont' break
> > anything?
> 
> Yeah this needs explaining:
> 
> The guest-observable difference between the two paths is that it sees
> quotes in different formats (the TDX module uses newer formats of
> course). And an old guest must be able to continue using its
> TDVMCALL<GetQuote> interface for quotes. The guest sends the quote to an
> external verifier to authenticate itself. The verifier (part of the
> cloud infrastructure) must know how to parse this format. So in other
> words, it's the verifier that must maintain backward compatibility if it
> wants to continue accepting old quotes. And it needs to be updated to
> support newer formats as well.

Uh, no, that's not how KVM's guest/host ABI works.  Updating the host kernel and
breaking existing guest is not acceptable.

> > > +{
> > > +	gfn_t gfn_start, gfn_end;
> > > +	u64 end;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!size)
> > > +		return TDVMCALL_STATUS_INVALID_OPERAND;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!PAGE_ALIGNED(gpa) || !PAGE_ALIGNED(size))
> > > +		return TDVMCALL_STATUS_ALIGN_ERROR;
> > > +
> > > +	if (check_add_overflow(gpa, size, &end))
> > > +		return TDVMCALL_STATUS_INVALID_OPERAND;
> > > +
> > > +	gfn_start = gpa_to_gfn(gpa);
> > > +	gfn_end = gpa_to_gfn(end);
> > > +
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Reject if the guest didn't explicitly convert its quote pages to
> > > +	 * shared.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (!kvm_range_has_memory_attributes(vcpu->kvm, gfn_start, gfn_end,
> > > +					     KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE, 0))
> > 
> > TOCTOU?
> 
> I struggled a bit with this actually... I can't just grab
> kvm->slots_lock here, and dropping kvm->srcu seems bad because the quote
> will be written to guest memory later. I settled on the idea that the
> guest should make sure these pages are converted to shared first. If it
> tries to convert them back to private after this check, before this
> TDVMCALL returns, then it's kind of a self-inflicted race and I don't
> see KVM doing any self damage in this case. Not sure if this makes sense
> to you? Or maybe I should just drop this check and go straight to
> kvm_vcpu_read_guest()?

Yes, drop it and rely on uaccess to do the right thing.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-10 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-18  8:13 [PATCH v2 00/17] Enable DICE-based TDX Quoting Extension Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] x86/virt/tdx: Embed version info in SEAMCALL leaf function definitions Xu Yilun
2026-06-18 14:45   ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-22 12:05     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] x86/virt/tdx: Configure add-on features on TDX module init and update Xu Yilun
2026-06-18 15:04   ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-22 13:15     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-24 12:00     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-24 22:10       ` Peter Fang
2026-06-25  6:33         ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-23  8:43   ` Chao Gao
2026-06-25 10:50     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] x86/virt/tdx: Detect if the extensions initialization is required Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  5:19   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-25 10:57     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-29  6:33   ` Chao Gao
2026-06-30 11:10     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] x86/virt/tdx: Add extra memory to TDX module for the extensions Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:54   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-24  1:53     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-29  7:56   ` Chao Gao
2026-06-30 10:27     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] x86/virt/tdx: Make TDX module initialize " Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:54   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 17:03     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] x86/virt/tdx: Re-initialize the extensions on runtime TDX module update Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-25  7:01     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-29  8:12   ` Chao Gao
2026-06-30 11:14     ` Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize Quoting extension Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:50   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-25 10:24     ` Peter Fang
2026-06-29  8:33   ` Chao Gao
2026-06-30  5:20     ` Peter Fang
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] x86/virt/tdx: Prepare Quote buffer during extension bringup Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:08   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-30  4:12     ` Peter Fang
2026-07-01 19:56   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-08  9:25     ` Peter Fang
2026-07-08  7:52   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] x86/virt/tdx: Add interface to check Quoting availability Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:09   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] x86/virt/tdx: Move tdx_tdr_pa() up in the file Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:10   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] x86/virt/tdx: Add interface to generate a Quote Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  8:49   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-30 15:28     ` Peter Fang
2026-06-25  6:05   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-30  4:22     ` Peter Fang
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] x86/virt/tdx: Reinitialize the Quoting extension after TDX module update Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:12   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] x86/virt/tdx: Enable Quoting extension Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:13   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] x86/tdx: Move and rename Quote request structure Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:15   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] KVM: TDX: Factor out userspace return path from tdx_get_quote() Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:16   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] KVM: TDX: Add in-kernel Quote generation Xu Yilun
2026-06-18  9:03   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-30 15:52     ` Peter Fang
2026-06-25 18:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-29 10:03     ` Peter Fang
2026-06-30  0:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-30 23:33         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-01  0:24           ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-01 17:25             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-01 18:45               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-04  5:43                 ` Peter Fang
2026-07-06 17:57                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-08 20:47                     ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-08 21:16                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-08 22:09                       ` Peter Fang
2026-07-08 22:28                         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-08 23:38                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-10  9:01                   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-10  9:38                     ` Peter Fang
2026-07-08 21:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10 12:52     ` Peter Fang
2026-07-10 14:48       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-10 22:59         ` Peter Fang
2026-06-18  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] KVM: TDX: Support event-notify interrupts only with userspace Quoting Xu Yilun
2026-06-25  6:28   ` Tony Lindgren
2026-06-30  6:36     ` Peter Fang

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