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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	"Tom Lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Fuad Tabba" <tabba@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 13/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Pass GPA, not GFN, to prepare() hook
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 16:44:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alGDwp9rJh23iz5D@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEvNRgHF1wybj7tHWMgBtnfb0W5AzyjhL45PzF3e2BVxrBUe7A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 10, 2026, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2026, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> >> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > Pass a GPA instead of a GFN to kvm_arch_gmem_prepare() so that the GFN/GPA
> >> > can be made optional in the future, i.e. so that guest_memfd can pass
> >> > INVALID_GPA.  This will allow reworking the hook into a general .convert()
> >>
> >> How about defining a INVALID_GFN instead of using gpa just so
> >> INVALID_GPA can be passed? The SNP side takes a gfn, so it seems like
> >> the 2 PAGE_SHIFTs are extra work.
> >
> > They are, but I am very hesitant to define INVALID_GFN as I'm worried about the
> > potential for subtle bugs if both INVALID_GPA and INVALID_GFN exist.  E.g. I
> > almost made a goof in this exact series where I was going to do:
> >
> > 	gfn_t gfn = gpa_to_gfn(svm->sev_es.snp_guest_vmsa_gpa);
> >
> > 	...
> >
> > 	if (gfn == INVALID_GFN)
> 
> When you did this check INVALID_GFN was defined as (~0) too I suppose...

Ya.  I didn't actually get that far, because INVALID_GFN didn't exist, but that
was my plan.

> > 		return;
> >
> > Where snp_guest_vmsa_gpa is set to INVALID_GPA.
> >
> > I suppose we could define INVALID_GFN to gpa_to_gfn(INVALID_GPA), but that feels
> > weird, and I feel more comfortable having magic invalid values in only one domain.
> 
> Maybe INVALID_GPA and INVALID_GFN should be defined such that both
> gpa_to_gfn and gfn_to_gpa are correct for both.

Oh, _that_ was actually what I almost broke.  I was going to track the gfn instead
of the gpa, and then do:

	svm->sev_es.snp_guest_vmsa_gfn = INVALID_GFN;

	...

	gpa = gfn_to_gpa(svm->sev_es.snp_guest_vmsa_gfn);

	if (gpa == INVALID_GPA)
		return;

That would have failed miserably, because even if if INVALID_GFN is -1ull, the
lower bits would be zero after the shift, i.e. wouldn't match INVALID_GPA.

I _think_ make that work, by doing something like:

  #define INVALID_GFN	((~(gfn_t)0) >> PAGE_SHIFT)
  #define INVALID_GPA	((gpa_t)INVALID_GFN << PAGE_SHIFT)

Which I actually don't mind conceptually, but I'm still not sure it's a good
idea in practice.  For whatever reason, converting between INVALID_GFN and
INVALID_GPA just feels wrong.

> Isn't the relationship between gpa and gfn always supposed to be always a
> fixed shift apart?

For valid GPAs, yes.  But if a value is completely bogus, is there really any
relationship?

> When a GPA is passed to the arch function, it almost feels like now the
> arch should be validating PAGE_ALIGNED(gpa).

Not sure I follow this.

> Mentioned this off-list, another thing that seems incongruent is that
> one parameter is in the address domain (gpa) and the other is in the
> page frame domain (pfn).

Yeah, I definitely don't love this either.  Hrm.

Aha!  Idea!  What if we just kinda sorta punt on the INVALID_GFN concept for the
moment?  This series doesn't actually _need_ to detect an INVALID_GFN, the only
"usage" is in a sanity check:

       if (to_private) {
               if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!kvm || gpa == INVALID_GPA))
                       return -EIO;

               return sev_gmem_make_private(kvm, gpa, pfn, nr_pages, order);
       }

and that can very easily be this, which is even better from a safety perspective,
and is actually somewhat sensible given that it also ensures KVM isn't trying to
assign a gfn with the C-bit set.  (Untested, i.e. I may botched the math, but the
idea is sound).

	if (to_private) {
		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!kvm || gfn >> (kvm_host.maxphyaddr - PAGE_SIZE)))
			return -EIO;

		return sev_gmem_make_private(kvm, gfn, pfn, nr_pages, order);
	}

Then in kvm_gmem_free_folio(), open code -1ull for the gfn:

	WARN_ON_ONCE(kvm_arch_gmem_convert(NULL, -1ull,
					   folio_file_pfn(folio, 0),
					   folio_nr_pages(folio),
					   folio_order(folio), false));

Which is all a little gross?  But I think it's less gross than passing a gpa, and
we don't risk delaying this and the in-place conversion series trying to find the
perfect answer.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-10 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-09 20:49 [PATCH v4 00/18] KVM: SEV: Fix RMP #PF due to freeing in-use VMSA Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/18] KVM: SEV: Track the GPA of the guest-controlled VMSA used for SNP guests Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:07   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  0:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/18] KVM: SEV: Extract loading of guest-provided VMSA to a separate helper Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:06   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/18] KVM: SEV: Mark vCPU RUNNABLE after AP_CREATE, even if VMSA is unusable Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:10   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/18] KVM: SEV: Wire up kvm_x86_ops.gmem_xxx() if and only if CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:11   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10  0:25     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 05/18] KVM: x86: Serialize writes to disabled_quirks using kvm->lock Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 06/18] KVM: x86: Ensure runtime reads of disabled_quirks are resolved once Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 07/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold kvm_mmu_zap_memslot() into kvm_arch_flush_shadow_memslot() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 08/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Split kvm_mmu_zap_all_fast() into "front" and "back" halves Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 09/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Use split "zap all fast" helpers when invalidating memslot Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 10/18] KVM: SEV: Forcefully invalidate SNP VMSA if its backing gmem page is zapped Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:06   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  0:30     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/18] KVM: SEV: Mark vCPU has having guest-provided VMSA even if its invalid Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/18] KVM: x86: Guard .gmem_prepare() declarations with HAVE_KVM_GMEM_PREPARE=y Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Pass GPA, not GFN, to prepare() hook Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:36   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10 22:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10 22:43       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10 23:44         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 14/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Drop the redundant printk on arch gmem_prepare() failure Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:18   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 15/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Fold __kvm_gmem_prepare_folio() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:11   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  0:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 16/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Explicitly pass number of pages to kvm_arch_gmem_prepare() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:12   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  0:23   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 17/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Align the gfn as well as the pfn when "preparing" a folio Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 21:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10  0:29     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10  0:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 18/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Combine .gmem_prepare()+.gmem_invalidate() into .gmem_convert() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:34   ` Ackerley Tng

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