From: Gerhard Wiesinger <lists@wiesinger.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: QEMU-KVM and video performance
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:14:15 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004212010270.14758@bbs.intern> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCED82C.9020702@redhat.com>
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 04/21/2010 01:08 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/19/2010 10:14 PM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Finally I got QEMU-KVM to work but video performance under DOS is very
>>>> low (QEMU 0.12.3 stable and QEMU GIT master branch is fast, QEMU KVM
>>>> is slow)
>>>>
>>>> I'm measuring 2 performance critical video performance parameters:
>>>> 1.) INT 10h, function AX=4F05h (set same window/set window/get window)
>>>> 2.) Memory performance to segment page A000h
>>>>
>>>> So BIOS performance (which might be port performance to VGA
>>>> index/value port) is about factor 5 slower, memory performance is
>>>> about factor 100 slower.
>>>>
>>>> QEMU 0.12.3 and QEMU GIT performance is the same (in the measurement
>>>> tolerance) and listed only once, QEMU KVM is much more slower (details
>>>> see below).
>>>>
>>>> Test programs can be provided, source code will be release soon.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas why KVM is so slow?
>>>>
>>> 16-color vga is slow because kvm cannot map the framebuffer to the guest
>>> (writes are not interpreted as RAM writes). 256+-color vga should be
>>> fast, except when switching the vga window. Note it's only fast on
>>> average, the first write into a page will be slow as kvm maps it in.
>>>
>> I don't understand: why is 256+-colour mappable and 16-colour not mappable?
>>
>
> Writes to vga in 16-color mode don't change set a memory location to a value,
> instead they change multiple memory locations.
>
>> Is this a case where TCG would run significantly faster for code blocks
>> that have been detected to access the VGA memory?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>>> Currently when the physical memory map changes (which is what happens
>>> when the vga window is updated), kvm drops the entire shadow cache.
>>> It's possible to do this only for vga memory, but not easy.
>>>
>> If it's a page fault handled in the kernel, I would expect it to be
>> about as fast as those old VGA DOS-extender drivers which provide the
>> illusion of a single flat mapping, and bank switch on page faults -
>> multiplied by the speed of modern CPUs compared with then. For many
>> graphics things those DOS-extender drivers worked perfectly well.
>>
>> If it's a trap out to qemu on every vga window change, perhaps not
>> quite so well.
>>
>
> It's much more complicated.
>
Can you explain which code files/functions of KVM is involved in handling
VGA memory window and page switching through the port write to the VGA
window register (or is that part handled through QEMU), so a little bit
architecture explaination would be nice?
BTW: In which KVM code parts is decided where "direct code" or an
"emulated device code" is used?
Thnx.
Ciao,
Gerhard
--
http://www.wiesinger.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-19 19:14 QEMU-KVM and video performance Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-04-21 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 10:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 10:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 18:14 ` Gerhard Wiesinger [this message]
2010-04-21 20:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-22 5:37 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-04-22 6:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 18:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 21:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22 5:44 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-05-12 10:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 18:09 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-04-21 18:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 18:50 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-04-21 18:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:08 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-04-21 21:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-22 6:12 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-05-12 10:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-22 6:04 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-04-22 7:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-09 19:35 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-05-10 7:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-12 6:14 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2010-05-12 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-02-18 7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: QEMU-KVM and video performance - Update Gerhard Wiesinger
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