From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
nik.borisov@suse.com, kas@kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
chao.gao@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2026 15:28:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfe57e67-49ce-47d7-b20b-a29e23fe16d4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84891108-55be-48c1-9993-c730a5334d5b@linux.intel.com>
On 9/3/2026 12:19 AM, Binbin Wu wrote:
> On 9/2/2026 11:09 PM, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>> On 9/2/2026 8:33 AM, Binbin Wu wrote:
>>>>> +static void __init tdx_initialize_cpu_cfg_caps(void)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + tdx_cpu_cfg_cap_init(CPUID_1_ECX,
>>>>> + TDX_CFG_EXTRA_F(MWAIT),
>>>>> + TDX_CFG_F(TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER),
>>>>> + TDX_CFG_F(AVX),
>>>>> + TDX_CFG_F(F16C),
>>>>> + );
>>>> TDX 1.5.24 on SPR report configurable bits of CPUID_1_ECX as
>>>> 0x31044988, which have
>>>>
>>>> - bit 3 MWAIT
>>>> - bit 7 EST
>>>> - bit 8 TM2
>>>> - bit 11 SDBG
>>>> - bit 14 XTPR
>>>> - bit 18 DCA
>>>> - bit 24 TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER
>>>> - bit 28 AVX
>>>> - bit 29 F16C
>>>>
>>>> but EST/TM2/SDBG/XTPR/DCA are not list here. I guess the reason is kvm_cpu_cap[] doesn't support it. If so, it seems to guard twice:
>>>> 1. mentally/manually check if it a feature is supported in kvm_cpu_caps[]
>>>>
>>>> 2. kvm_cpu_caps guarding in tdx_cpu_cfg_cap_init().
>>>>
>>>> I think 1) is not necessary, we can rely on 2)
>>> In general, if a feature is not supported by the common KVM CPU caps,
>> For kvm-intel.ko, kvm_cpu_caps[] just means the supported CPUID features
>> for VMX VMs. Treat it as the common KVM CPU caps is a bit arguable.
>>
>>> I prefer not
>>> to add it to the list to save a few lines of code, which probably is dead code,
>> I don't think it's dead code. It shows that these features are
>> virtualizable to TDs from the POV. of TDX.
> It depends on whether KVM allows userspace to set features for TDs that are not support
> for non-TDX VMs (,except for a few exceptions).
>
> In this version, TDX_CFG_F() already check against kvm_cpu_caps[], if these features
> are not in kvm_cpu_caps[], it will not be exposed to userspace anyway.
>
I still think the reasoning that we omit them because they are not
contained in kvm_cpu_caps[] sounds not right. Based on it, so when we are
going to add a new feature for TDX, we need to first manually check the KVM
code to see if that feature is contained in kvm_cpu_caps[] already. If not,
we just don't add it to TDX's list. Then why need to cap the result
kvm_cpu_caps[] for TDX_CFG_F() again? Just for safety in case human make
mistake and misread the code of kvm_cpu_caps[]?
I think they are two independent steps:
1. list the CPUID features that KVM can support for TDs.
2. apply additional restrictions, e.g., if a feature is not allowed for
non-TDX VMs, it cannot be allowed for TDs.
>> In the end, they might be disallowed to be configured to TDs because KVM
>> doesn't allow them for VMX VMs. This is also the point I want to discuss.
>> Do we really want to make such restriction that KVM cannot enable/allow a
>> feature for TDs unless KVM first enables/allows it for VMX VMs? What's
>> reason behind it?
> Sean mentioned it that "generally speaking, KVM shouldn't allow features
> that KVM doesn't support for non-TDX VMs" in
> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aj1fi_0SBxMK5WOB@google.com/
For existing features, it might make some sense. But for new features, I
don't think so. It defines the enabling order for new features that we must
enable a feature for non-TDX VMs first and then TDs. And people might want
to bypass this rule by abusing the TDX_CFG_EXTRA_F() when only one line of
TDX_CFG_EXTRA_F() is enough to enable a feature for TDs but more effort
required to enable it for non-TDX VMs.
Maybe I miss somthing. I would like to see stronger reasons for such decision.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-03 7:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-27 3:18 [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 8:23 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 8:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 14:35 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 0:33 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 15:09 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 16:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:25 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-03 7:28 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2026-09-03 8:57 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: TDX: Report CORE_CAPABILITIES as configurable Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-02 17:43 ` Kishen Maloor
[not found] ` <d47c8cc6-242b-4ebf-89f2-0909abdaadd5@linux.intel.com>
2026-09-03 6:10 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-09-03 8:12 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: TDX: Filter configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 8:42 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-03 8:04 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03 8:23 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: TDX: Validate userspace CPUID input for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-27 7:25 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-08-27 19:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28 3:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-28 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-31 5:01 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:42 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 10:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:09 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:21 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 17:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 10:29 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 13:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 14:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:26 ` Binbin Wu
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