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* [LARTC] script to perform dead gateway detection
@ 2004-03-11  2:29 Ming-Ching Tiew
  2004-03-11  2:55 ` Daniel Chemko
  2004-03-11 11:29 ` sufcrusher
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ming-Ching Tiew @ 2004-03-11  2:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc


I am also having some difficulty in doing dead gateway 
detection using a shell script :-

Basically I am using ping -c 1 ${GATEWAY_1}  If it times 
out, I supposed it got into error, so it is probably time for me to 
change route.

However, even if the ping comes back, it does not mean the 
GATEWAY is alive as my nexthop; this is because I figured 
that the packet could have made a U-turn via the one of the alive
links to come back to answer the ping request, ie the gateway 
is alive for a packet on the external network, but the gateway 
is still down from inside point of view, and this can happen 
due to a faulty connection between by second link IP and the 
second link gateway !  

Without patching the kernel to do dead gateway detection,
how do I find out if a particular gateway is dead as my
NEXTHOP ?






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* RE: [LARTC] script to perform dead gateway detection
  2004-03-11  2:29 [LARTC] script to perform dead gateway detection Ming-Ching Tiew
@ 2004-03-11  2:55 ` Daniel Chemko
  2004-03-11 11:29 ` sufcrusher
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Chemko @ 2004-03-11  2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

How about iptables -A OUTPUT --destination ${GATEWAY_1} -j TTL --set-ttl
2 (or 1, I'm not sure if the ttl dec is done at all with output chains)

So, after the next hop, if the IP address isn't GATEWAY_1, then the
packet is dead in the water.

Ming-Ching Tiew wrote:
> I am also having some difficulty in doing dead gateway
> detection using a shell script :-
> 
> Basically I am using ping -c 1 ${GATEWAY_1}  If it times
> out, I supposed it got into error, so it is probably time for me to
> change route.
> 
> However, even if the ping comes back, it does not mean the
> GATEWAY is alive as my nexthop; this is because I figured
> that the packet could have made a U-turn via the one of the alive
> links to come back to answer the ping request, ie the gateway is
> alive for a packet on the external network, but the gateway 
> is still down from inside point of view, and this can happen
> due to a faulty connection between by second link IP and the
> second link gateway !
> 
> Without patching the kernel to do dead gateway detection,
> how do I find out if a particular gateway is dead as my
> NEXTHOP ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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* Re: [LARTC] script to perform dead gateway detection
  2004-03-11  2:29 [LARTC] script to perform dead gateway detection Ming-Ching Tiew
  2004-03-11  2:55 ` Daniel Chemko
@ 2004-03-11 11:29 ` sufcrusher
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: sufcrusher @ 2004-03-11 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

Try using the -I option for ping, this forces it to use a certain interface:

ping -I ${MY_IP_1} -c 1 ${GATEWAY_1}

You can also add a route to the gateway to force it to use that interface. I
do the same for the 2 SMTP servers of the different ISP's. I can't connect
to one SMTP server from the other ISP anyway, so better make it impossible
altogether.

sufcrusher

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ming-Ching Tiew" <mingching.tiew@redtone.com>
To: <lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:29 AM
Subject: [LARTC] script to perform dead gateway detection


>
> I am also having some difficulty in doing dead gateway
> detection using a shell script :-
>
> Basically I am using ping -c 1 ${GATEWAY_1}  If it times
> out, I supposed it got into error, so it is probably time for me to
> change route.
>
> However, even if the ping comes back, it does not mean the
> GATEWAY is alive as my nexthop; this is because I figured
> that the packet could have made a U-turn via the one of the alive
> links to come back to answer the ping request, ie the gateway
> is alive for a packet on the external network, but the gateway
> is still down from inside point of view, and this can happen
> due to a faulty connection between by second link IP and the
> second link gateway !
>
> Without patching the kernel to do dead gateway detection,
> how do I find out if a particular gateway is dead as my
> NEXTHOP ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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