[ANNOUNCE] ELKS-0.1.3-pre1 released

[ANNOUNCE] ELKS-0.1.3-pre1 released

[Miguel Bolanos]

Greetings to all.

I have the proud to announce that ELKS-0.1.3-pre1 have been released.

After a long period of inactivity, activity has resumed on the ELKS
kernel. Various changes relating to debugging ELKS kernel panics have
been integrated into this release, along with various tweaks to the
spelling of messages displayed by the kernel

To get the latest ELKS source via CVS use:

cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/elks login
 
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/elks co elks

Miguel

Newbie Question

[Sérgio Duarte e Silva]

Hi all,

I would like to ask you if there is any implementation already running on a
80186 enviroment. If there is any FAQ or related material please if possible
send me a link. Thank you very much indeed.

Sérgio Duarte e Silva

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Re: Newbie Question

[Alan Cox]

On Iau, 2003-07-17 at 02:43, Sérgio Duarte e Silva wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to ask you if there is any implementation already running on a
> 80186 enviroment. If there is any FAQ or related material please if possible
> send me a link. Thank you very much indeed.

It should boot on an 80186, 286, 386... PC just fine. For a non PC
system you'll need to do somethign about drivers

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Re: Newbie Question

[Sérgio Duarte e Silva]

Sorry, I forgot.. I am trying an embbeded system ;-). So, that's why I
asked, I am looking for something like ECOS redboot, if there is nothing I
will try to develop, just asking before start.
Thanks a lot!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Sérgio Duarte e Silva" <sduartes@mandic.com.br>
Cc: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie Question


On Iau, 2003-07-17 at 02:43, Sérgio Duarte e Silva wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to ask you if there is any implementation already running on
a
> 80186 enviroment. If there is any FAQ or related material please if
possible
> send me a link. Thank you very much indeed.

It should boot on an 80186, 286, 386... PC just fine. For a non PC
system you'll need to do somethign about drivers


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Re: Newbie Question

[Paul Nasrat]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 08:12:13AM -0300, S??rgio Duarte e Silva wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot.. I am trying an embbeded system ;-). So, that's why I
> asked, I am looking for something like ECOS redboot, if there is nothing I
> will try to develop, just asking before start.

I know that others were looking at various boards:

http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/rrbyzo.html

I'm not sure how far it got.  Also it might be worth looking through how
the SIBO (Psion 3 series) bootloader works (arch/i86/sibo) to look at a
non PC based startup.

Maybe you could post details of the board, etc.

Paul

Re: Newbie Question

[Dan Olson]

> It should boot on an 80186, 286, 386... PC just fine. For a non PC
> system you'll need to do somethign about drivers

The only 186/188 system I'm familar with is the Tandy 2000 and it's not an
IBM PC compatible...so if by "PC" you mean and IBM clone, I'm not sure if
the 80186/88 will run ELKS as-is.  I raised this question a while back and
the answer I got was that those CPUs have integrated hardware that was
externally connected on the PC, and that hardware isn't quite connected
the same on the two.  I think it's definetly possible to get ELKS running
on the 186, but does it need to be conpiled for such?  Actually, if
someone has a schematic for a simple 186 based homebrew, I'd like to see
it.  Does ELKS support having the console on a serial terminal yet?

	Dan

Re: Newbie Question

[Alan Cox]

On Iau, 2003-07-17 at 15:55, Dan Olson wrote:
> the 80186/88 will run ELKS as-is.  I raised this question a while back and
> the answer I got was that those CPUs have integrated hardware that was
> externally connected on the PC, 

80186EC does, 80186 is near enough an 8086 drop in replacement with some
extra instructions - just nothing worth the effort so only a few people
used them in PC's.

> and that hardware isn't quite connected
> the same on the two.  I think it's definetly possible to get ELKS running
> on the 186, but does it need to be conpiled for such?  Actually, if
> someone has a schematic for a simple 186 based homebrew, I'd like to see
> it.  Does ELKS support having the console on a serial terminal yet?

Just replace the vt52 console driver with the serial driver and it'll be
happy

Re: Newbie Question

[Dan Olson]

> 80186EC does, 80186 is near enough an 8086 drop in replacement with some
> extra instructions - just nothing worth the effort so only a few people
> used them in PC's.

Huh, so would ELKS be happy running on a 186 with just the pre-compiled
kernal image?  I had thought about building a "PC clone" of sorts with a
186 but gave up on the idea thinking that it would be too incompatible and
wouldn't run anything but custom software.

> Just replace the vt52 console driver with the serial driver and it'll be
> happy

Cool, it'd be easier to wire in a UART than a video chip I think :)

	Dan

Re: Newbie Question

[Alan Cox]

On Iau, 2003-07-17 at 16:24, Dan Olson wrote:
> > 80186EC does, 80186 is near enough an 8086 drop in replacement with some
> > extra instructions - just nothing worth the effort so only a few people
> > used them in PC's.
> 
> Huh, so would ELKS be happy running on a 186 with just the pre-compiled
> kernal image? 

Given some kind of PC BIOS or BIOS subset it should yes

Re: Newbie Question

[Sérgio Duarte e Silva]

Hi!

I do have a simple 186 schematic, I will add some RAm, at maximum 1 MB then
I can send it to you or anyone else who wants this. In our enterprise we use
the a Acore TERN hardware (www.tern.com), but this is a 80188, it is not so
interesting to me as the 80186. May be its the right hardware for you.

Sérgio

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Olson" <dano@agora.rdrop.com>
To: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie Question


> > It should boot on an 80186, 286, 386... PC just fine. For a non PC
> > system you'll need to do somethign about drivers
>
> The only 186/188 system I'm familar with is the Tandy 2000 and it's not an
> IBM PC compatible...so if by "PC" you mean and IBM clone, I'm not sure if
> the 80186/88 will run ELKS as-is.  I raised this question a while back and
> the answer I got was that those CPUs have integrated hardware that was
> externally connected on the PC, and that hardware isn't quite connected
> the same on the two.  I think it's definetly possible to get ELKS running
> on the 186, but does it need to be conpiled for such?  Actually, if
> someone has a schematic for a simple 186 based homebrew, I'd like to see
> it.  Does ELKS support having the console on a serial terminal yet?
>
> Dan
>
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