Ok lets get back on track

Ok lets get back on track

[Fredrik Söderlund]

First of All
Sorry for my horrible English.
Sorry if i have offended anybody that was never my meaning ! 

Tanks Hans for bringing me to the right side ...
http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/fhlvnr.html

I mean running a C compiler under ELKS ore similuare "C++" ;-)

have learned now that some sort of C bcc, and Asambler, ACK.
Is how to start Now i have to Study both English and Programming ;-)

And i am not the right person to judge if the site shuld have the diffrent 
Programming Language and compilers on the side But i dont think so.

some "ftp" with programs none to work on ELKS .. like  thre example from 
microwin
ftp://microwindows.censoft.com/pub/microwindows/Binaries/ElksExamples 
ore similare 

regurds Fille  

 





   

Re: Ok lets get back on track

[Hans]

Hi Fille,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fredrik Söderlund" <fille.sod@telia.com>
To: "Linux-8086" <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: Ok lets get back on track


> First of All
> Sorry for my horrible English.
> Sorry if i have offended anybody that was never my meaning !

Please no apology, if we don't understand we can always ask :-)
>
> Tanks Hans for bringing me to the right side ...
> http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/fhlvnr.html
>
> I mean running a C compiler under ELKS ore similuare "C++" ;-)

In that case you best bet is to use bcc (C only). You might be able to port 
another compiler but I suspect that is not going to be easy.
>
> have learned now that some sort of C bcc, and Asambler, ACK.
> Is how to start Now i have to Study both English and Programming ;-)

For English I would use a spelling checker since that can help you a lot. I 
am not sure about gaining some programming skills using ELKS unless you are 
after embedded programming skills?

>
> And i am not the right person to judge if the site shuld have the diffrent
> Programming Language and compilers on the side But i dont think so.

mmmm..., I think we should since I am personally not a great fan of BCC 
simply because I failed to build it under Cygwin and Gentoo64. I have 
received a number of suggestion to solve this one like chrooting into a 32 
bits environment but to be honest there are a lots of free 8086 compilers 
available and some of them are quite good (e.g. Open Watcom, see 
http://www.openwatcom.org/index.php/Main_Page).

Another suggestion is to use ACK. This has the added advantage that we can 
target different microcontroller/processors something which might boost the 
popularity of ELKS. David Given is working on (or has completed? ) 
resurrecting this compiler. See 
http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-8086@vger.kernel.org/1939852.html 
for a trail of old messages.

>
> some "ftp" with programs none to work on ELKS .. like  thre example from
> microwin
> ftp://microwindows.censoft.com/pub/microwindows/Binaries/ElksExamples

Interesting, I guess there are lots of good links lurking away on the 
internet, Jody, what about adding a useful links page to the website?

Regards,
Hans.
www.ht-lab.com


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Re: Ok lets get back on track

[David Given]

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Hans wrote:
[...]
> Another suggestion is to use ACK. This has the added advantage that we
> can target different microcontroller/processors something which might
> boost the popularity of ELKS. David Given is working on (or has
> completed? ) resurrecting this compiler. See
> http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-8086@vger.kernel.org/1939852.html
> for a trail of old messages.

Still going; it's a slow, tedious process. I'm currently rewriting the build
system from scratch to make it, like, actually maintainable. This has,
unfortunately, require writing a build tool to do it! It tends to move on in
fits and starts as I gain/lose interest.

However, the version on the website with the old build system
(http://tack.sf.net) *does* build and run on Linux. The only trouble with it
is that it doesn't know how to produce ELKS binaries, so someone would have to
write a binary format converter to do that (and produce an ELKS syscall
library). This wouldn't be much work, seeing as how ELKS uses Minix binaries
which the ACK does know how to make, but would still need someone to actually
do it... volunteers?

(The ACK will, if you ask it to, compile Fortran, Pascal, K&R C, ANSI C,
Occam, Basic and Modula 2 for any platform it supports; so if someone *were*
to do that, you suddenly gain a whole bunch of new supported languages.)

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