Re : Elks Distribution

Re : Elks Distribution

[Neil Holmes]

I will arrange somewhere to post my distributions for download.

I'll post a message when I have this arranged.

Thanks

Neil

Re: Re : Elks Distribution

[Alan Cox]

On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:43, Neil Holmes wrote:
> I will arrange somewhere to post my distributions for download.
> 
> I'll post a message when I have this arranged.

ftp.linux.org.uk will be happy to provide space

Re: Re : Elks Distribution

[Javier Sedano]

Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:43, Neil Holmes wrote:
> > I will arrange somewhere to post my distributions for download.
> >
> > I'll post a message when I have this arranged.
> 
> ftp.linux.org.uk will be happy to provide space
> 

	Wouldn't it be better to upload that files to the official ELKS home
page at sourceforge? Rilley?

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Re: Elks Distribution

[Riley Williams]

Hi Javier.

>>> I will arrange somewhere to post my distributions for download.
>>>
>>> I'll post a message when I have this arranged.

>> ftp.linux.org.uk will be happy to provide space

> Wouldn't it be better to upload that files to the official ELKS home
> page at sourceforge? Riley?

Ideally, it would be an extension of the elkscmd package that was
implemented as a `make instimg` command that created the disk images in
a similar way to how the `make full3` creates a disk image of a 1.44M
3.5" ELKS boot floppy. If Neil wishes to do that, I have no problem with
the idea, and my recommended route would be to create an elkscmd/hdinst
directory in the existing tree and develop this in there, then go from
that.

Comments?

Best wishes from Riley.

Re: Elks Distribution

[Stefan de Konink]

kuch, kuch... only for 1.44 :'( can we make it work on 1.2mb and 360K
disks too?

On Mon, 27 May 2002, Riley Williams wrote:

> Hi Javier.
>
> >>> I will arrange somewhere to post my distributions for download.
> >>>
> >>> I'll post a message when I have this arranged.
>
> >> ftp.linux.org.uk will be happy to provide space
>
> > Wouldn't it be better to upload that files to the official ELKS home
> > page at sourceforge? Riley?
>
> Ideally, it would be an extension of the elkscmd package that was
> implemented as a `make instimg` command that created the disk images in
> a similar way to how the `make full3` creates a disk image of a 1.44M
> 3.5" ELKS boot floppy. If Neil wishes to do that, I have no problem with
> the idea, and my recommended route would be to create an elkscmd/hdinst
> directory in the existing tree and develop this in there, then go from
> that.
>
> Comments?
>
> Best wishes from Riley.
>
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Re: Elks Distribution

[Riley Williams]

Hi Stefan.

>>>>> I will arrange somewhere to post my distributions for download.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll post a message when I have this arranged.

>>>> ftp.linux.org.uk will be happy to provide space

>>> Wouldn't it be better to upload that files to the official ELKS home
>>> page at sourceforge? Riley?

>> Ideally, it would be an extension of the elkscmd package that was
>> implemented as a `make instimg` command that created the disk images
>> in a similar way to how the `make full3` creates a disk image of a
>> 1.44M 3.5" ELKS boot floppy. If Neil wishes to do that, I have no
>> problem with the idea, and my recommended route would be to create
>> an elkscmd/hdinst directory in the existing tree and develop this in
>> there, then go from that.
>>
>> Comments?

> kuch, kuch... only for 1.44 :'( can we make it work on 1.2mb and
> 360K disks too?

Here's what is currently implemented:

 1. `make root boot` produces a TWO disk set for 360k drives as the
    root disk is too large to leave room for the kernel on a 360k
    diskette. This is for standalone applications only.

 2. `make comb` produces a single diskette image for 720k drives in
    standalone applications.

 3. There should be (but isn't) a `make net_disk` option that creates
    a separate diskette with the SLIP networking tools on it to go
    with either of the above disks. HarKal implied that he would sort
    this out soon after he finished the SLIP tools, but I've heard no
    more on that since.

 4. `make comb_net` produces a single diskette image for 720k drives
    in SLIP networed applications, omitting some of the utilities on
    the previous image to make room for the SLIP networking.

 5. `make full5` produces a single diskette image for 1200k drives in
    either standalone or SLIP networked applications.

 6. `make full5` produces a single diskette image for 1440k drives in
    either standalone or SLIP networked applications.

As my 286 based laptop has 1440k 3.5" drives, I use `make full3` here,
so that's the one I used in my example.

Best wishes from Riley.

Re : ELks Distribution

[Neil Holmes]

Please note - anyone who has tried my Elks Distribution.

The install script in the zip file has a fault in the creation of
/dev/tty1,2,3. It is corrected in my development version. You may wish
to check your version if you are trying it out. The net effect of the
version that I distributed yesterday is that you need to change to the
second virtual screen to see your login prompt.

Sorry for this.

Thanks

Neil

RE: Re : ELks Distribution

[Gregg Levine]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
Sound like a good idea. Except where is the attachment? I checked both
that website, my webmail for this e-mail address, and one other place.
No attachment of a zipfile. So what happened? Did your mail program
ignore that attachment?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-8086-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-8086-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Neil Holmes
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:46 AM
> To: Linux 8086
> Subject: Re : ELks Distribution
> 
> Please note - anyone who has tried my Elks Distribution.
> 
> The install script in the zip file has a fault in the creation of
> /dev/tty1,2,3. It is corrected in my development version. You may wish
> to check your version if you are trying it out. The net effect of the
> version that I distributed yesterday is that you need to change to the
> second virtual screen to see your login prompt.
> 
> Sorry for this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Re : ELks Distribution

[Blaz Antonic]

> Sound like a good idea. Except where is the attachment? I checked both
> that website, my webmail for this e-mail address, and one other place.
> No attachment of a zipfile. So what happened? Did your mail program
> ignore that attachment?

Are you people insane ? 'm sure there are people subscribed to this list
that aren't really keen on downloading 1 MB e-mails; if you have
something big that you want to share with others put it on the Web
somewhere and post a link to it.

You don't see Harry posting disk images on this list or something like
that, do you ?

Blaz Antonic

Re: Re : ELks Distribution

[Riley Williams]

Hi Blaz.

>> Sound like a good idea. Except where is the attachment? I checked
>> both that website, my webmail for this e-mail address, and one other
>> place. No attachment of a zipfile. So what happened? Did your mail
>> program ignore that attachment?

> Are you people insane ? 'm sure there are people subscribed to this
> list that aren't really keen on downloading 1 MB e-mails; if you
> have something big that you want to share with others put it on the
> Web somewhere and post a link to it.

I'm not insane, but plenty of people are - witness the profusion of
binary newsgroups on the surfboard where people regularly post not just
1M files, but much bigger ones as well! The record I've seen is when
somebody sent me an email asking for help sorting their system out, and
attached the output of `tar czvf /tmp/usr.tgz /usr` to the email. My
mailhost bounced the email, and logged it as having bounced due to its
being 37,942,109,913 bytes in size !!! Few ISP mailhosts accept emails
that large...

Somebody will probably tell me of a case where that has been exceeded
though...

Best wishes from Riley.

RE: Re : ELks Distribution

[Gregg Levine]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
The largest e-mail attachment this account can handle is about 8
megabytes. It happens that I am storing these messages on a folder in
that account's database. Now I am not insane, plenty of people in Queens
are. Including the entire population of a certain location. But
seriously what did happen to that attachment? Neil can you make it
available from a single distribution point, other then this list? Also,
I've had luck booting the existing images from the Bochs project,
version 1.pre4.0 worked. Go to http://bochs.sourceforge.net for details.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blaz Antonic [mailto:blaz.antonic@havn.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 6:24 PM
> To: Gregg Levine
> Cc: linux-8086@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: Re : ELks Distribution
> 
> > Sound like a good idea. Except where is the attachment? I checked
both
> > that website, my webmail for this e-mail address, and one other
place.
> > No attachment of a zipfile. So what happened? Did your mail program
> > ignore that attachment?
> 
> Are you people insane ? 'm sure there are people subscribed to this
list
> that aren't really keen on downloading 1 MB e-mails; if you have
> something big that you want to share with others put it on the Web
> somewhere and post a link to it.
> 
> You don't see Harry posting disk images on this list or something like
> that, do you ?
> 
> Blaz Antonic


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Re: Re : ELks Distribution

[Riley Williams]

Hi Neil.

> Please note - anyone who has tried my Elks Distribution.
>
> The install script in the zip file has a fault in the creation of
> /dev/tty1,2,3. It is corrected in my development version. You may
> wish to check your version if you are trying it out. The net effect
> of the version that I distributed yesterday is that you need to
> change to the second virtual screen to see your login prompt.
>
> Sorry for this.

Unless I'm mistaken, there's a MAKEDEV script in the rootfs_template
section of the elkscmd package that creates ALL of the various device
nodes with the correct values for the current kernel, and which is kept
up to date with that kernel. It would probably be a good idea to use
this script directly rather than to write one of your own for that.

Note that the script creates the nodes in the CURRENT directory, so
needs to be run with script similar to the following, which assumes that
${DEST} is the path to the root of the target filesystem in the current
filesystem, and ${SRC} is the directory that the rootfs_template tree is
mounted on in the current filesystem:

	mkdir -p ${DEST}/dev
	cp ${SRC}/dev/MAKEDEV ${DEST}/dev
	cd ${DEST}/dev
	./MAKEDEV

Best wishes from Riley.