EDE Elk´s

EDE Elk´s

[Fredrik Söderlund]

Hello i we struggled hit this fore some time now
on my 286 i have  install EDE-ELKS becorse it have 1´44 floppy
but on my 8088 "8086 but slower" it only have 5´25 flex-floppy's
i cant get this in with EDE-Elks someone how now how to do ?
tried the way described in the manual wont go someone got any idea ?
i now it runs on it do i have a similar Toshiba 1100 laggtop it works fine 
there but only on floppy do it dont have any HardDrive

Kindly reguards Fille

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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Vikas Kumar]

I have a Toshiba 1100+ laptop too and after some hiccups was able to
install ELKS last year on it. The laptop has only 720KB floppy drives
though. I have not tried installing any TCP/IP ELKS work or any
compilers, just the basic ELKS stuff.
The biggest problem is getting a 1.44MB floppy drive to write a 720KB
floppy without making errors.
so i gave up after a while and ran kermit using MSDOS and used a null
modem to connect to a Linux box.
Has anyone been able to get the TCP/IP stuff for ELKS working on any
machine <286 ?

vikas

On 4/27/06, Fredrik Söderlund <fille.sod@telia.com> wrote:
> Hello i we struggled hit this fore some time now
> on my 286 i have  install EDE-ELKS becorse it have 1´44 floppy
> but on my 8088 "8086 but slower" it only have 5´25 flex-floppy's
> i cant get this in with EDE-Elks someone how now how to do ?
> tried the way described in the manual wont go someone got any idea ?
> i now it runs on it do i have a similar Toshiba 1100 laggtop it works fine
> there but only on floppy do it dont have any HardDrive
>
> Kindly reguards Fille
>
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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Stefan de Konink]

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Vikas Kumar wrote:

> Has anyone been able to get the TCP/IP stuff for ELKS working on any
> machine <286 ?

Yes, it worked about 4 years ago :D Over nullmodem that is.


Stefan

Re: EDE Elk´s

[pfengland]

Glad to hear at least a couple of people out there are using elks.  I just rescued a t1100+ from a recycling pile, and have elks working on it pretty well. Patrick, I was glad to find your website, it inspired me to rescue this ancient laptop, and the disks you posted there helped me get started (though I'm not sure how to make boot floppies from the toshiba dos files you have on there).
A couple of questions for anyone using elks:
I am trying to get a development environment going on the toshiba.  as86 and ld86 run fine on them.  Has anyone had luck compiling/running bcc and libc in elks? I want to be able to do development on the system I am developing for!
Also, what are people using in the way of editors? vi and elvis don't really seem to work. I like e3-16 but it is disgustingly slow on this machine.
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:52:02 -0500
From: pfengland@mailshack.com
To: linux-8086@vger.kernel.org

thanks in advance.  I guess i doesn't surprise me that there isn't too much active development to revive 1986 technology (is the 8086 still in production?)

Forrest

Re: EDE Elk´s

[Vikas Kumar]

You are right, Patrick was a great help. He even made an effort to
scan the original Toshiba 1100+ manual for me because it wasnt working
at all for me :) Thanks Patrick.

And "pfengland" (sorry dude, don't know your name) "Real programmers
use cat to edit files" :)
have you tried pico or joe or ed. I have not so I am just enquiring.
I have some questions for you, did you install as86 and ld86
separately or did it come with your ELKS root image install ?

To burn the Toshiba DOS files on the floppy, I would suggest using
rawrite programs for windows. U can also use dd on linux but i havent
tried that.
I have also found a version of Elisa - the Lisp program wihch talks to
u- and ran it on the toshiba 1100+ successfully :)

There are other things people on this group can try, there is this
kernel called Movitz which is a Lisp kernel written for the x86
processor. I have run it on Bochs (open source Virtual machine
software) but not on Toshiba1100+ yet.. maybe i willl play around .

If you ever get your development environment running, or even if it is
partially running could you and everyone else who has been successful
in doing that please post some instructions :) It would save us a lot
of time if we want to do it and we can collaborate more in creating
applications for ELKS or any other 8086 clone.

Thanks and regards
Vikas

On 4/27/06, pfengland@mailshack.com <pfengland@mailshack.com> wrote:
> Glad to hear at least a couple of people out there are using elks.  I just rescued a t1100+ from a recycling pile, and have elks working on it pretty well. Patrick, I was glad to find your website, it inspired me to rescue this ancient laptop, and the disks you posted there helped me get started (though I'm not sure how to make boot floppies from the toshiba dos files you have on there).
> A couple of questions for anyone using elks:
> I am trying to get a development environment going on the toshiba.  as86 and ld86 run fine on them.  Has anyone had luck compiling/running bcc and libc in elks? I want to be able to do development on the system I am developing for!
> Also, what are people using in the way of editors? vi and elvis don't really seem to work. I like e3-16 but it is disgustingly slow on this machine.

Re: EDE Elk´s

[Hans]

Hi Vikas,

> If you ever get your development environment running, or even if it is
> partially running could you and everyone else who has been successful
> in doing that please post some instructions :) It would save us a lot
> of time if we want to do it and we can collaborate more in creating
> applications for ELKS or any other 8086 clone.

I think it is more important to sort out the archive list and perhaps also
the website (at least have a 2006 entry such as "we are still alive"  :-).
Without an updated archive list and/or website potential
hobbyists/developers are turned away and the results is what we have
currently, a few emails a year.

Last year I asked who is in charge of the website but I got no reply. I also
emailed the maintainer of the website (CC'd again on this email) but also
got no reply. Miguel Bolanos offered to start the ball rolling but as far as
I know nothing happened. I am not complaining since we are all busy but
fixing the archive list should take that long.

So lets ask the question again, who is in charge of the website/archive
list?

RHW, if you are on-line could you please fix the archive link?

Thanks,
Hans.
www.ht-lab.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Miguel Bolanos" <mike@hsol.net>
To: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:30 AM
Subject: Help Wanted!


> Greetings to all,
>
> As you may have noticed the project has been stuck for quite a while, i
> am looking forward to bring it back to life, but and would like to ask
> for some help, obviously coders are very welcome, but also people
> willing to help writing docs, and even people looking forward to help us
> create a new look for the project website.
> Looking forward to hear back from you.
>
> regards
>
> Miguel.
>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vikas Kumar" <walburn@gmail.com>
To: <pfengland@mailshack.com>
Cc: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: EDE Elk´s


> You are right, Patrick was a great help. He even made an effort to
> scan the original Toshiba 1100+ manual for me because it wasnt working
> at all for me :) Thanks Patrick.
>
> And "pfengland" (sorry dude, don't know your name) "Real programmers
> use cat to edit files" :)
> have you tried pico or joe or ed. I have not so I am just enquiring.
> I have some questions for you, did you install as86 and ld86
> separately or did it come with your ELKS root image install ?
>
> To burn the Toshiba DOS files on the floppy, I would suggest using
> rawrite programs for windows. U can also use dd on linux but i havent
> tried that.
> I have also found a version of Elisa - the Lisp program wihch talks to
> u- and ran it on the toshiba 1100+ successfully :)
>
> There are other things people on this group can try, there is this
> kernel called Movitz which is a Lisp kernel written for the x86
> processor. I have run it on Bochs (open source Virtual machine
> software) but not on Toshiba1100+ yet.. maybe i willl play around .
>
> If you ever get your development environment running, or even if it is
> partially running could you and everyone else who has been successful
> in doing that please post some instructions :) It would save us a lot
> of time if we want to do it and we can collaborate more in creating
> applications for ELKS or any other 8086 clone.
>
> Thanks and regards
> Vikas
>
> On 4/27/06, pfengland@mailshack.com <pfengland@mailshack.com> wrote:
>> Glad to hear at least a couple of people out there are using elks.  I
>> just rescued a t1100+ from a recycling pile, and have elks working on it
>> pretty well. Patrick, I was glad to find your website, it inspired me to
>> rescue this ancient laptop, and the disks you posted there helped me get
>> started (though I'm not sure how to make boot floppies from the toshiba
>> dos files you have on there).
>> A couple of questions for anyone using elks:
>> I am trying to get a development environment going on the toshiba.  as86
>> and ld86 run fine on them.  Has anyone had luck compiling/running bcc and
>> libc in elks? I want to be able to do development on the system I am
>> developing for!
>> Also, what are people using in the way of editors? vi and elvis don't
>> really seem to work. I like e3-16 but it is disgustingly slow on this
>> machine.
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Re: EDE Elk´s

[David Given]

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Vikas Kumar wrote:
[...]
> There are other things people on this group can try, there is this
> kernel called Movitz which is a Lisp kernel written for the x86
> processor. I have run it on Bochs (open source Virtual machine
> software) but not on Toshiba1100+ yet.. maybe i willl play around .

Looks like Movitz is ia32 only, I'm afraid --- so it probably won't work
on ia16 machines (a.k.a i86).

Have you tried Minix 2? It will run quite happily on an 8086 with 640kB
of RAM, although it does tend to run out of memory if you do too much
stuff. It might be able to talk to the Toshiba's EMS system for swap
space, though. It'll give you a Unix-alike that while being rather
slower than ELKS, is considerably more mature. (Dual-booting Minix and
ELKS might be rather useful if you want to do ELKS development. It ought
to be possible to cross-compile ELKS from Minix.) It's also got a big
library of software designed to run in a split 64/64 address space,
which means it should be easy to port to ELKS.

With regard to the mailing list and other resources (CVS, etc), it might
be worth considering relocating wholesale to Sourceforge...

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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Javier Sedano]

David Given wrote:
> 
> Have you tried Minix 2? It will run quite happily on an 8086 with 640kB
> of RAM, although it does tend to run out of memory if you do too much
> stuff. It might be able to talk to the Toshiba's EMS system for swap
> space, though.

	Minix 2.0.2 as sooner will run on 8086/640k, even with TCP/IP. However 
it uses lots of memory for the kernel and basic programs (getty, sh,...) 
so it lets only a couple of 64k spaces for user programs.

	In 2.0.3 (?) they included a swap mechanism... but it used even more 
meory, getting it unusable at all for 640k computers.

	They said it will be a target for future releases, but it seems Minix3 
is a higher prioirity now.

> It'll give you a Unix-alike that while being rather
> slower than ELKS, is considerably more mature. (Dual-booting Minix and
> ELKS might be rather useful if you want to do ELKS development. It ought
> to be possible to cross-compile ELKS from Minix.) It's also got a big
> library of software designed to run in a split 64/64 address space,
> which means it should be easy to port to ELKS.
> 

	In fact, many of the user programs we have in elks are proted from 
minix by elks developers.


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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Michael McConnell]

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:

> RHW, if you are on-line could you please fix the archive link?

Someone else will have to take over the website maintenance...

http://www.chorleytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=81&ArticleID=905248

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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Jody]

Oh my god, I didn't know that happened.

That's terrible news.

Michael McConnell wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:
> 
> 
>>RHW, if you are on-line could you please fix the archive link?
> 
> 
> Someone else will have to take over the website maintenance...
> 
> http://www.chorleytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=81&ArticleID=905248
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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Hans]

If he is indeed the person in the article than I am very sorry to hear that, 
perhaps we should try to add a tribute to him on the ELKS website?

Hans
www.ht-lab.com

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Subject: Re: EDE Elk´s


> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:
>
>> RHW, if you are on-line could you please fix the archive link?
>
> Someone else will have to take over the website maintenance...
>
> http://www.chorleytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=81&ArticleID=905248
>
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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Michael McConnell]

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:

> If he is indeed the person in the article than I am very sorry to hear that, 
> perhaps we should try to add a tribute to him on the ELKS website?

I can personally confirm that it is him.  I was at university with him at 
Aberdeen and he was a friend of mine.  The dead-tree edition (which I saw a 
photocopy of the article) also had his picture. 

-- Michael

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> Cc: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: EDE Elk´s
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:
> >
> >> RHW, if you are on-line could you please fix the archive link?
> >
> > Someone else will have to take over the website maintenance...
> >
> > http://www.chorleytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=81&ArticleID=905248
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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Vikas Kumar]

Hi
My sincere condolences to all those who knew Riley. It is a great loss
for ELKS users group.
So is anyone volunteering to revive the website ?

Regards,
Vikas

On 4/28/06, Michael McConnell <soruk@eridani.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:
>
> > If he is indeed the person in the article than I am very sorry to hear that,
> > perhaps we should try to add a tribute to him on the ELKS website?
>
> I can personally confirm that it is him.  I was at university with him at
> Aberdeen and he was a friend of mine.  The dead-tree edition (which I saw a
> photocopy of the article) also had his picture.
>
> -- Michael
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael McConnell" <soruk@eridani.co.uk>
> > To: "Hans" <hans64@ht-lab.com>
> > Cc: <linux-8086@vger.kernel.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: EDE Elk´s
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans wrote:
> > >
> > >> RHW, if you are on-line could you please fix the archive link?
> > >
> > > Someone else will have to take over the website maintenance...
> > >
> > > http://www.chorleytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=81&ArticleID=905248
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Re: EDE Elk´s

[Forrest England]

Vikas Kumar wrote:
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 15:41:29 -0500
To: linux-8086@vger.kernel.org


| And "pfengland" (sorry dude, don't know your name) "Real programmers
| use cat to edit files" :)


Thanks for responding.  My name is Forrest.
Yeah, you're right, I can get by with cat and grep.
Ed didn't seem to be working, but maybe I didn't try hard enough.


| I have some questions for you, did you install as86 and ld86
| separately or did it come with your ELKS root image install ?
| If you ever get your development environment running, or even if it is
| partially running could you and everyone else who has been successful
| in doing that please post some instructions :) It would save us a lot
| of time if we want to do it and we can collaborate more in creating
| applications for ELKS or any other 8086 clone.


I have the whole dev86 working under a normal linux distribution (not on
the toshiba.) no, I compiled elks from the sources I could get my hands
on, it didn't come with as86 or ld86.  I got as86 and ld86 compiled and
running at least under elks on the toshiba, but they act very funky.  I
was just trying to reproduce some errors I was getting earlier, but now
it's doing something different.  as86 was working fine in elks, except
sometimes it would print its usage information and not do its thing,
seemingly randomly, even with the exact same command, something like:

$ as86 -0 -o test.o test.s
$ ld86 -0 -o test test.o

but it did work some of the time.  ld86 wasn't working before, it gave
an error (which I don't seem to be able to reproduce now) about not
being able to create a native a.out file, try -N.  I tried it with -N
and a bunch of different options.  Right now it seems to work fine, and
as86 isn't working, it's just printing out its usage info again.  They
are trying to work anyway.  With intermittent errors like these, it's
hard to tell if its them or some other unreliable piece of elks.  Maybe
more of elks needs to work better before it can develop itself.  I tried
this running elks on a pentium III, and ELKS was having all kinds of
funky problems, stack errors, printing all kinds of garbage, scrolling
"0 EXIT 0" eternally.  So I guess I spoke too soon, I haven't really got
these guys to work in ELKS.


Very sorry to hear about RHW.
I think putting some kind of tribute on the website is a good idea.


I wouldn't mind helping out with the website if need be.

I'm sure ELKS isn't anyone's first priority, but I think it does have
viable applications in embedded systems
and learning purposes as the website says, and for fun.  These toshibas
are pretty good computers, for their
time.  Where else are you going to find a laptop who's battery lasts for
up to eight hours?  I've been having
some fun with mine writing 8086 code that it boots directly into off a
disk.  There was a good series of articles
on this in Linux Gazette.  It seems like ELKS will take some work to
really get useable.  Too bad, I can't stand DOS, though if I am going to
for anything, it would be nice to get it going with all the toshiba
drivers and stuff.

| To burn the Toshiba DOS files on the floppy, I would suggest using
| rawrite programs for windows. U can also use dd on linux but i havent
| tried that.


I wrote MS-DOS 3.3 disks from images on bootdisk.com with dd no
problem.  The ones on Patrick's website are zip
files though, not disk images.


Thanks for the info,
Forrest

Re: EDE Elk´s

[Jody]

Forrest England wrote:
> Very sorry to hear about RHW.
> I think putting some kind of tribute on the website is a good idea.

Seconded.

> I wouldn't mind helping out with the website if need be.

Neither would I, but my message about me volunteering to take over the 
whole website maintenance task appears to have fallen on deaf inboxes. 
I have the spare time to maintain it all if I was allowed to do so.

> I'm sure ELKS isn't anyone's first priority, but I think it does have
> viable applications in embedded systems
> and learning purposes as the website says, and for fun.  These toshibas
> are pretty good computers, for their
> time.  Where else are you going to find a laptop who's battery lasts for
> up to eight hours?  I've been having
> some fun with mine writing 8086 code that it boots directly into off a
> disk.  There was a good series of articles
> on this in Linux Gazette.  It seems like ELKS will take some work to
> really get useable.  Too bad, I can't stand DOS, though if I am going to
> for anything, it would be nice to get it going with all the toshiba
> drivers and stuff.

The main problem I have right now is that the "bootkit" by Pascal 
Bellard that was used in EDE was not made available in source code form.

As many XT machines as I've owned with 20-60 MB hard disks, it would be 
nice to have a boot loader for hard disks that wasn't binary-only.

Jody

Re: EDE Elk´s

[Chad]

On 5/1/06, Jody <jbruchon@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Forrest England wrote:
> > Very sorry to hear about RHW.
> > I think putting some kind of tribute on the website is a good idea.
>
> Seconded.

Ditto, and I think that goes for pretty much everyone here, too.

> > I wouldn't mind helping out with the website if need be.
>
> Neither would I, but my message about me volunteering to take over the
> whole website maintenance task appears to have fallen on deaf inboxes.
> I have the spare time to maintain it all if I was allowed to do so.

Looks like you need to reach one of the five project admins to get you
added as a developer on sourceforge.net... I wonder if any of them're
seeing this ;)

- Chad

Re: EDE Elk´s

[Alan Cox]

On Llu, 2006-05-01 at 14:01 -0700, Chad wrote:
> Looks like you need to reach one of the five project admins to get you
> added as a developer on sourceforge.net... I wonder if any of them're
> seeing this ;)

Not sure. Can't remember my sf password or how to work sf.net but I may
be one of them still

Re: EDE Elk´s

[Chad]

On 5/1/06, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> On Llu, 2006-05-01 at 14:01 -0700, Chad wrote:
> > Looks like you need to reach one of the five project admins to get you
> > added as a developer on sourceforge.net... I wonder if any of them're
> > seeing this ;)
>
> Not sure. Can't remember my sf password or how to work sf.net but I may
> be one of them still

Yup, you are... the list is at
http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3232

- Chad