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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, <james.morse@arm.com>,
	<linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
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	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Yicong Yang" <yangyicong@huawei.com>, <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	Yushan Wang <wangyushan12@huawei.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] generic: Support ARCH_HAS_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 12:53:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250711125328.00002334@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C8F33767-6C7F-4CDA-8B78-6857AA771AD3@zytor.com>

On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 23:01:50 -0700
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> On July 9, 2025 10:57:37 PM PDT, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> >Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> >> From: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
> >> 
> >> ARCH_HAS_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION provides the mechanism for
> >> invalidate certain memory regions in a cache-incoherent manner.
> >> Currently is used by NVIDMM adn CXL memory. This is mainly done
> >> by the system component and is implementation define per spec.
> >> Provides a method for the platforms register their own invalidate
> >> method and implement ARCH_HAS_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION.  
> >
> >Please run spell-check on changelogs.
> >  
> >> 
> >> Architectures can opt in for this support via
> >> CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION.
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/base/Kconfig             |  3 +++
> >>  drivers/base/Makefile            |  1 +
> >>  drivers/base/cache.c             | 46 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++  
> >
> >I do not understand what any of this has to do with drivers/base/.
> >
> >See existing cache management memcpy infrastructure in lib/Kconfig.
> >  
> >>  include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h | 12 +++++++++
> >>  4 files changed, 62 insertions(+)
> >> 
> >> diff --git a/drivers/base/Kconfig b/drivers/base/Kconfig
> >> index 064eb52ff7e2..cc6df87a0a96 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/base/Kconfig
> >> +++ b/drivers/base/Kconfig
> >> @@ -181,6 +181,9 @@ config SYS_HYPERVISOR
> >>  	bool
> >>  	default n
> >>  
> >> +config GENERIC_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION
> >> +	bool
> >> +
> >>  config GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES
> >>  	bool
> >>  	default n
> >> diff --git a/drivers/base/Makefile b/drivers/base/Makefile
> >> index 8074a10183dc..0fbfa4300b98 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/base/Makefile
> >> +++ b/drivers/base/Makefile
> >> @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_DEV_COREDUMP) += devcoredump.o
> >>  obj-$(CONFIG_GENERIC_MSI_IRQ) += platform-msi.o
> >>  obj-$(CONFIG_GENERIC_ARCH_TOPOLOGY) += arch_topology.o
> >>  obj-$(CONFIG_GENERIC_ARCH_NUMA) += arch_numa.o
> >> +obj-$(CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION) += cache.o
> >>  obj-$(CONFIG_ACPI) += physical_location.o
> >>  
> >>  obj-y			+= test/
> >> diff --git a/drivers/base/cache.c b/drivers/base/cache.c
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 000000000000..8d351657bbef
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/drivers/base/cache.c
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@
> >> +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> >> +/*
> >> + * Generic support for CPU Cache Invalidate Memregion
> >> + */
> >> +
> >> +#include <linux/spinlock.h>
> >> +#include <linux/export.h>
> >> +#include <asm/cacheflush.h>
> >> +
> >> +
> >> +static const struct system_cache_flush_method *scfm_data;
> >> +DEFINE_SPINLOCK(scfm_lock);
> >> +
> >> +void generic_set_sys_cache_flush_method(const struct system_cache_flush_method *method)
> >> +{
> >> +	guard(spinlock_irqsave)(&scfm_lock);
> >> +	if (scfm_data || !method || !method->invalidate_memregion)
> >> +		return;
> >> +
> >> +	scfm_data = method;  
> >
> >The lock looks unnecessary here, this is just atomic_cmpxchg().
> >  
> >> +}
> >> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(generic_set_sys_cache_flush_method);
> >> +
> >> +void generic_clr_sys_cache_flush_method(const struct system_cache_flush_method *method)
> >> +{
> >> +	guard(spinlock_irqsave)(&scfm_lock);
> >> +	if (scfm_data && scfm_data == method)
> >> +		scfm_data = NULL;  
> >
> >Same here, but really what is missing is a description of the locking
> >requirements of cpu_cache_invalidate_memregion().
> >
> >  
> >> +}
> >> +
> >> +int cpu_cache_invalidate_memregion(int res_desc, phys_addr_t start, size_t len)
> >> +{
> >> +	guard(spinlock_irqsave)(&scfm_lock);
> >> +	if (!scfm_data)
> >> +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> >> +
> >> +	return scfm_data->invalidate_memregion(res_desc, start, len);  
> >
> >Is it really the case that you need to disable interrupts during cache
> >operations? For potentially flushing 10s to 100s of gigabytes, is it
> >really the case that all archs can support holding interrupts off for
> >that event?
> >
> >A read lock (rcu or rwsem) seems sufficient to maintain registration
> >until the invalidate operation completes.
> >
> >If an arch does need to disable interrupts while it manages caches that
> >does not feel like something that should be enforced for everyone at
> >this top-level entry point.
> >  
> >> +}
> >> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(cpu_cache_invalidate_memregion, "DEVMEM");
> >> +
> >> +bool cpu_cache_has_invalidate_memregion(void)
> >> +{
> >> +	guard(spinlock_irqsave)(&scfm_lock);
> >> +	return !!scfm_data;  
> >
> >Lock seems pointless here.
> >
> >More concerning is this diverges from the original intent of this
> >function which was to disable physical address space manipulation from
> >virtual environments.
> >
> >Now, different archs may have reason to diverge here but the fact that
> >the API requirements are non-obvious points at a minimum to missing
> >documentation if not missing cross-arch consensus.
> >  
> >> +}
> >> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(cpu_cache_has_invalidate_memregion, "DEVMEM");
> >> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h b/include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h
> >> index 7ee8a179d103..87e64295561e 100644
> >> --- a/include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h
> >> +++ b/include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h
> >> @@ -124,4 +124,16 @@ static inline void flush_cache_vunmap(unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> >>  	} while (0)
> >>  #endif
> >>  
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION
> >> +
> >> +struct system_cache_flush_method {
> >> +	int (*invalidate_memregion)(int res_desc,
> >> +				    phys_addr_t start, size_t len);
> >> +};  
> >
> >The whole point of ARCH_HAS facilities is to resolve symbols like this
> >at compile time. Why does this need a indirect function call at all?  
> 
> Yes, blocking interrupts is much like the problem with WBINVD.
> 
> More or less, once user space is running, this isn't acceptable.
It's a bug that I missed in dragging this from a very different implementation.

Will fix for v3.

J
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-11 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-24 15:47 [PATCH v2 0/8] Cache coherency management subsystem Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:47 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] memregion: Support fine grained invalidate by cpu_cache_invalidate_memregion() Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-09 19:46   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-07-09 22:31   ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-11 11:54     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] generic: Support ARCH_HAS_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 16:16   ` Greg KH
2025-06-25 16:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-10  5:57   ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10  6:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-11 11:53       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2025-07-11 11:52     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-07 16:07       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] cache: coherency core registration and instance handling Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] MAINTAINERS: Add Jonathan Cameron to drivers/cache Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] arm64: Select GENERIC_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-25 16:21   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-28  7:10   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] cache: Support cache maintenance for HiSilicon SoC Hydra Home Agent Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 17:18   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [RFC v2 7/8] acpi: PoC of Cache control via ACPI0019 and _DSM Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] Hack: Pretend we have PSCI 1.2 Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-25  8:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Cache coherency management subsystem Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25  9:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 17:03       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-26  9:55         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-10  5:32           ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 10:59             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 18:36               ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10  5:22       ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10  5:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-10 10:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 18:45           ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 18:55             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-10 19:11               ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 19:16                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-09 19:53     ` Davidlohr Bueso

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