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From: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@unseen.parts>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Cc: Magnus Lindholm <linmag7@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Michael Cree <mcree@orcon.net.nz>,
	John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel Oops on alpha with kernel version >=6.9.x
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:43:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5Uit9F7xF0ZlMk2@minute> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2501251543460.27203@angie.orcam.me.uk>

On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 05:01:42PM +0000, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
>  Yeah, just as I observed in my other reply, but notice that syscalls and 
> exceptions handlers typically actually do *not* receive a 16-byte aligned 
> stack now.

Interesting. Perhaps these frames are aligned by PAL-code as well,
the reference manual wasn't clear about that.

> > > On stack alignment in "ALPHA Calling Standard":
> > > D.3.1 Stack Alignment
> > > 
> > > "This standard requires that stacks be octaword aligned at the time a
> > > new procedure is invoked. During the body of a procedure, however,
> > > there is no requirement to keep this level of alignment (even though
> > > it may be beneficial). This implies that any asynchronous interrupt
> > > handlers must properly align the stack before any standard calls are
> > > made."
> > 
> > I hope we can rely on GCC changing $sp only by multiplies of 16.
> 
>  Absolutely, the compiler would be completely broken otherwise.
> 
> > (Yes, there is still the UAPI issue that Maciej pointed out, but that's
> > another story.)
> 
>  So we now have two variants to pick from.  I wish we could take yours as 
> it's certainly neater, but is it safe enough?
> 
>  I can see arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h was only incarnated as 
> late as in 2012 with commit 96433f6ee490 ("UAPI: (Scripted) Disintegrate 
> arch/alpha/include/asm") and according to the change heading made in an 
> automated way, with little public discussion, so maybe its existence is 
> actually an accident?  Unlike some other platforms we don't expose this 
> `struct pt_regs' via ptrace(2) for PTRACE_GETREGS/PTRACE_SETREGS, which 
> we don't implement.

Yeah, a bit of e-mail desync, sorry :)

At the moment I compile gdb with empty asm/ptrace.h just to be 100% sure.

>  NB, here's a corresponding stack alignment report for your change:
> 
> start_kernel: SP: fffffc0000dcfe90
> do_entInt: SP: fffffc0000dcfc60
> copy_thread: SP: fffffc0000dcfc90, regs: fffffc0000dcff10, childregs: fffffc0001837f10, childstack: fffffc0001837ed0
> do_page_fault: SP: fffffc0001837bb8
> sys_exit_group: SP: fffffc00028bfef0
> do_entUnaUser: SP: fffffc0001bcfe68
> do_entArith: SP: fffffc0001dfbee0
> do_entIF: SP: fffffc0001fafee0
> 
> so there's still work to be done for `entMM' and `entUna' exceptions.

I knew about entUna, I thought it's safe as it only deals with 64-bit data
and not going to be changed in future, but missed entMM...

I agree, better fix both.

Ivan.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-25 17:43 UTC|newest]

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2024-12-04 22:22       ` Kernel Oops on alpha with kernel version >=6.9.x Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-05 15:39         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-12-05 17:02           ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-06 15:39             ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-06 17:05               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-12-07 12:33                 ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-07 12:39                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-12-07 17:33                     ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-07 18:38                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-12-08  9:43                         ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-08 21:39                           ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-08 23:18                             ` Michael Cree
2024-12-08 23:31                               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-12-09  8:11                                 ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-12 23:23                                   ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-09  8:05                               ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-16 22:10                                 ` Michael Cree
2024-12-17  6:23                                   ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-18 19:33                                     ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-18 20:31                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 21:54                                         ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-18 22:50                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-19 22:38                                             ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-19 23:03                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-20  0:00                                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-12-27 10:42                                                   ` Magnus Lindholm
2024-12-27 11:48                                                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-12-27 16:30                                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2024-12-31 10:43                                                       ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-12 23:25                                                         ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-13  0:19                                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-13  3:08                                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-13  5:59                                                             ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-13  8:04                                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-13 16:52                                                               ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-20 13:01                                                                 ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-20 13:19                                                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-21 13:39                                                                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-23 18:36                                                                       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-23 23:00                                                                         ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-23 23:51                                                                           ` Michael Cree
2025-01-23 23:57                                                                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-24  6:06                                                                           ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-24 10:55                                                                           ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-24 16:57                                                                             ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-25 15:15                                                                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-25 17:01                                                                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-25 17:43                                                                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky [this message]
2025-01-25 18:25                                                                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-25 18:59                                                                                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-25 19:48                                                                                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-25 22:06                                                                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-25 23:02                                                                                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-26 14:00                                                                                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-26 19:15                                                                                                 ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-27 11:48                                                                                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-27 11:56                                                                                                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-25 18:07                                                                                 ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-01-25 15:35                                                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-25 17:09                                                                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-24  6:54                                                                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-11-24 21:47 Magnus Lindholm

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