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From: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
To: Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>
Cc: "kelvin . zhang" <Kelvin.Zhang@amlogic.com>,
	"qi . duan" <qi.duan@amlogic.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 3/3] clk: meson: s4: add support for Amlogic S4 SoC peripheral clock controller
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 11:07:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jmt60nxa7.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37e5d1a9-9379-a7ff-e288-9a4b80a0cc5f@amlogic.com>


On Mon 30 Jan 2023 at 17:59, Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com> wrote:

> On 2023/1/30 17:47, Jerome Brunet wrote:
>> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>> On Mon 30 Jan 2023 at 17:41, Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2023/1/30 17:06, Jerome Brunet wrote:
>>>> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>>>> On Sat 28 Jan 2023 at 18:17, Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2023/1/20 17:47, Jerome Brunet wrote:
>>>>>> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>>>>>> On Fri 20 Jan 2023 at 11:33, Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> On 2023/1/19 19:37, Jerome Brunet wrote:
>>>>>>>> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>>>>>>>> On Mon 16 Jan 2023 at 15:42, Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Add the peripherals clock controller driver in the s4 SoC family.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Yu Tu <yu.tu@amlogic.com>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +/* Video Clocks */
>>>>>>>>> +static struct clk_regmap s4_vid_pll_div = {
>>>>>>>>> +	.data = &(struct meson_vid_pll_div_data){
>>>>>>>>> +		.val = {
>>>>>>>>> +			.reg_off = CLKCTRL_VID_PLL_CLK_DIV,
>>>>>>>>> +			.shift   = 0,
>>>>>>>>> +			.width   = 15,
>>>>>>>>> +		},
>>>>>>>>> +		.sel = {
>>>>>>>>> +			.reg_off = CLKCTRL_VID_PLL_CLK_DIV,
>>>>>>>>> +			.shift   = 16,
>>>>>>>>> +			.width   = 2,
>>>>>>>>> +		},
>>>>>>>>> +	},
>>>>>>>>> +	.hw.init = &(struct clk_init_data) {
>>>>>>>>> +		.name = "vid_pll_div",
>>>>>>>>> +		/*
>>>>>>>>> +		 * The frequency division from the hdmi_pll clock to the vid_pll_div
>>>>>>>>> +		 * clock is the default value of this register. When designing the
>>>>>>>>> +		 * video module of the chip, a default value that can meet the
>>>>>>>>> +		 * requirements of the video module will be solidified according
>>>>>>>>> +		 * to the usage requirements of the chip, so as to facilitate chip
>>>>>>>>> +		 * simulation. So this is ro_ops.
>>>>>>>>> +		 * It is important to note that this clock is not used on this
>>>>>>>>> +		 * chip and is described only for the integrity of the clock tree.
>>>>>>>>> +		 */
>>>>>>>> If it is reset value and will be applicable to all the design, regarless
>>>>>>>> of the use-case, then yes RO ops is OK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >From what I understand here, the value will depend on the use-case requirements.
>>>>>>>> This is a typical case where the DT prop "assigned-rate" should be used, not RO ops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check the previous chip history, the actual scene is not used at all,
>>>>>>> basically is used in simulation. So the previous SOC was "ro_ops" without
>>>>>>> any problems.  This S4 SOC is not actually useful either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So when you were upstream, you had no problem making "ro_ops". I wonder if
>>>>>>> I could delete this useless clock, so you don't have to worry about it.
>>>>>> I don't know what to make of this. What is the point of adding a useless
>>>>>> clock ?
>>>>>
>>>>> As explained earlier this "vid_pll_div" is actually used in chip
>>>>> emulation. So next I'd like to know what you suggest to do with the clock?
>>>>>
>>>> If it does not exist in the actual SoC, please remove it
>>>>
>>>
>>> If I remove it, the "vid_pll_sel" clock will be missing a parent
>>> (vid_pll_div). I will use the table method and give the above reasons. Do
>>> you accept this method?
>> Either the clock exists or it does not.
>> If the HW actually exist, it is expected to be properly described.
>> If it does not, it obviously cannot be an input to another clock.
>> Please sort this out and make the necessary changes.
>> 
>
> The CLKCTRL_VID_PLL_CLK_DIV register is actually described, but it is not
> used in the actual board. According to your reply just now, description is
> required, but I want to know how to describe it to meet your requirements.
>
> Please give me some suggestions.

Implementing things is NOT about usage, it is about correctness.
Either there is actually a clock in the silicon you are producing at the
Amlogic factory, or there is not. 

If the clock is there in the actual HW should be properly
described/implemented, as it "might" be used as an input to other clocks
- even if you personnaly don't.

If clock does not exists (nothing behind the registers, or broken, etc
...)  then, yes you'll need to use parent tables and document this.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-30 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-16  7:42 [PATCH V6 0/3] Add S4 SoC PLL and Peripheral clock controller Yu Tu
2023-01-16  7:42 ` [PATCH V6 1/3] dt-bindings: clock: document Amlogic S4 SoC PLL & peripheral " Yu Tu
2023-01-16  8:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-16  9:31     ` Yu Tu
2023-01-19  0:38       ` Kevin Hilman
2023-01-20  2:25         ` Yu Tu
2023-01-25  0:25           ` Kevin Hilman
2023-01-28  8:19             ` Yu Tu
2023-01-20  9:37       ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-28  8:23         ` Yu Tu
2023-01-16  7:42 ` [PATCH V6 2/3] clk: meson: S4: add support for Amlogic S4 SoC PLL clock driver Yu Tu
2023-01-19 11:20   ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-20  2:58     ` Yu Tu
2023-01-20  9:43       ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-28  8:36         ` Yu Tu
2023-01-16  7:42 ` [PATCH V6 3/3] clk: meson: s4: add support for Amlogic S4 SoC peripheral clock controller Yu Tu
2023-01-19 11:37   ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-20  3:33     ` Yu Tu
2023-01-20  9:47       ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-28 10:17         ` Yu Tu
2023-01-30  9:06           ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-30  9:41             ` Yu Tu
2023-01-30  9:47               ` Jerome Brunet
2023-01-30  9:59                 ` Yu Tu
2023-01-30 10:07                   ` Jerome Brunet [this message]
2023-01-31  3:29                     ` Yu Tu
2023-01-19 11:18 ` [PATCH V6 0/3] Add S4 SoC PLL and Peripheral " Jerome Brunet
2023-01-20  2:31   ` Yu Tu

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