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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: John Ericson <mail@johnericson.me>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,  Li Chen <me@linux.beauty>,
	Cong Wang <cwang@multikernel.io>,
	 linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Sergei Zimmerman <sergei@zimmerman.foo>,
	 Farid Zakaria <farid.m.zakaria@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Null Namespaces
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2026 12:31:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260629-parabel-kraut-waldsee-a4ebfab949ee@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260626001538.GO2636677@ZenIV>

> So supply a library of your own and try to convince people to use it
> instead of libc.  You'll have to anyway, seeing that a large and

I agree. And in fact that is what we've been doing:

https://github.com/cyphar/libpathrs

I also plan on splitting the chase*() machinery in systemd out as
a separate C library as well:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/104750fd60da4c563650785e272a7ce0a6694d01/src/basic/chase.c#L238

> hard-to-predict part of libc will be non-functional.  Which syscalls
> are used by your library is entirely up to you.
> 
> Would that kind of thing added kernel-side assist the development of such
> library?  Maybe, but I wouldn't bet too much on that - if you start from

It wouldn't really and we haven't needed it for that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-29 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-24 22:51 [RFC] Null Namespaces John Ericson
2026-06-24 23:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-24 23:20   ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-24 23:53     ` John Ericson
2026-06-25  1:10       ` Al Viro
2026-06-25  3:41         ` John Ericson
2026-06-25 15:51           ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-25 18:21             ` John Ericson
2026-06-26  0:15           ` Al Viro
2026-06-26 16:26             ` John Ericson
2026-06-29 10:31             ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2026-06-24 23:12 ` Al Viro
2026-06-25 21:00   ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-25 21:50     ` John Ericson
2026-06-25 23:09       ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-26  8:27         ` David Laight
2026-06-26 17:23           ` John Ericson
2026-06-29 10:39       ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-01  9:49         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 21:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-29 11:45 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-29 21:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-30  4:25     ` John Ericson
2026-07-02  9:34     ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 15:43       ` John Ericson
2026-07-03  8:59         ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-03 17:35       ` Directory capability brain dump (Re: [RFC] Null Namespaces) Andy Lutomirski
2026-07-06 14:52       ` [RFC] Null Namespaces Christian Brauner
2026-07-06 16:32         ` Jann Horn
2026-07-06 17:10           ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-07-06 17:04         ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-30  2:50   ` John Ericson
2026-06-30  7:14     ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-30 17:20       ` John Ericson
2026-06-30 17:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-07-02  9:29           ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-30 18:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-07-04 13:20 ` Li Chen

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