From: Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: John Ericson <mail@johnericson.me>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Li Chen <me@linux.beauty>,
Cong Wang <cwang@multikernel.io>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Sergei Zimmerman <sergei@zimmerman.foo>,
Farid Zakaria <farid.m.zakaria@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Null Namespaces
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 11:49:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akTgQH1YIg2blzRe@lt-jori.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260629-zoomen-tragweite-redakteur-dc6c41c9c151@brauner>
On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 12:39:56PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > The kernel rightfully has consolidated path resolution in a few key
> > places as much as possible -- the internal `struct path` does not suffer
> > from these issues. I barely modify those places to support null root and
> > CWD, and because of that consolidation, we shouldn't expect new places
> > to crop up in the future. (Duplicative path resolution logic is a bad
> > idea whether or not we have a nascent, little-used NULL-cwd/root code
> > path.) Therefore, I think existing code review, even among people
> > totally ignorant of this feature, will protect us --- the vast majority
> > of code will just be working with `struct path`, and be totally
> > unaffected by this change.
>
> I actually did laugh out loud reading this. I'm sorry, I can't really
> take this argument seriously. May I introduce you to drivers/ for a
> start and the history of path lookup exploits of the last - say 10
> years.
>
> You have to excuse me but it's a mixture of amusement and slight anger.
> Amusement because this is really naive and thus also a bit endearing.
> Anger because it single-handedly dismisses how big of an attack surface
> and problem space path lookup is. The equivalent of every math
> professor's "trivial. excercise left to the reader".
I could easily show you why path lookup is trivial, but I have no space
left in the margins of this email.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-01 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-24 22:51 [RFC] Null Namespaces John Ericson
2026-06-24 23:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-24 23:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-24 23:53 ` John Ericson
2026-06-25 1:10 ` Al Viro
2026-06-25 3:41 ` John Ericson
2026-06-25 15:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-25 18:21 ` John Ericson
2026-06-26 0:15 ` Al Viro
2026-06-26 16:26 ` John Ericson
2026-06-29 10:31 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-24 23:12 ` Al Viro
2026-06-25 21:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-25 21:50 ` John Ericson
2026-06-25 23:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-26 8:27 ` David Laight
2026-06-26 17:23 ` John Ericson
2026-06-29 10:39 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-01 9:49 ` Jori Koolstra [this message]
2026-07-02 21:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-29 11:45 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-29 21:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-30 4:25 ` John Ericson
2026-07-02 9:34 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 15:43 ` John Ericson
2026-07-03 8:59 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-03 17:35 ` Directory capability brain dump (Re: [RFC] Null Namespaces) Andy Lutomirski
2026-07-06 14:52 ` [RFC] Null Namespaces Christian Brauner
2026-07-06 16:32 ` Jann Horn
2026-07-06 17:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-07-06 17:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-30 2:50 ` John Ericson
2026-06-30 7:14 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-30 17:20 ` John Ericson
2026-06-30 17:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-07-02 9:29 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-30 18:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-07-04 13:20 ` Li Chen
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