From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>, Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 21:01:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6dfa5f7c-ffbd-4605-96f2-09e365ce57dd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahv16ogY8Zx3Rtox@pedro-suse.lan>
On 5/31/26 10:54, Pedro Falcato wrote:
> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 01:01:04AM +0000, Askar Safin wrote:
>> This patchset is for VFS.
>>
>> Recently we got a lot of vulnerabilities in splice/vmsplice.
>>
>> Also vmsplice already was source of vulnerabilities in the past:
>> CVE-2020-29374 (see https://lwn.net/Articles/849638/ ).
>>
>> Also vmsplice is problematic for other reasons. Here is what other
>> developers say:
>>
>> Linus Torvalds in 2023:
>>> So I'd personally be perfectly ok with just making vmsplice() be
>>> exactly the same as write, and turn all of vmsplice() into just "it's
>>> a read() if the pipe is open for read, and a write if it's open for
>>> writing".
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wgG_2cmHgZwKjydi7=iimyHyN8aessnbM9XQ9ufbaUz9g@mail.gmail.com/
>>
>> Christoph Hellwig in May 2026:
>>> vmsplice is the worst, as it is one of the few remaining places that
>>> can incorrectly dirty file backed pages without telling the file system
>>> and cause the other problems fixed by a FOLL_PIN conversion, but it is
>>> the only one where we do not have any idea yet how we could convert it
>>> to FOLL_PIN due to the unbounded pin time.
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/agwFlBKvKytjURDO@infradead.org/
>>
>> See recent discussion here:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260516182126.530498-1-pfalcato@suse.de/T/#u
>
> So, you took an ongoing discussion with an ongoing RFC patchset, and you
> decided to reimplement part of the idea on your own, as a concurrent patchset.
>
> Riiiiiight.... I don't think I have to NAK this, do I?
Jup. I'll just ignore this patch set here.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-31 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-31 1:01 [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-05-31 1:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] tee: fs/splice.c: remove unused parameter "flags" from "link_pipe" Askar Safin
2026-05-31 1:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-03 20:56 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-03 21:17 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04 9:06 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 14:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 17:38 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 21:32 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 9:32 ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:30 ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-06 9:16 ` David Laight
2026-06-05 1:57 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-06-05 8:23 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 23:25 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-05 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:26 ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 17:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 17:19 ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-08 18:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-16 0:36 ` Askar Safin
2026-05-31 1:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] splice: remove PIPE_BUF_FLAG_GIFT Askar Safin
2026-05-31 8:54 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Pedro Falcato
2026-05-31 19:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-05-31 21:21 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-01 16:16 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-02 21:12 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 21:37 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-02 22:41 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 23:07 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 22:54 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 1:08 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 3:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 6:45 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 13:40 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:22 ` David Howells
2026-06-03 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 15:15 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-10 5:14 ` Herbert Xu
2026-06-10 14:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-10 5:09 ` Herbert Xu
2026-06-10 9:55 ` David Laight
2026-06-03 22:43 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 22:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 23:00 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-05 9:43 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 12:19 ` David Laight
2026-06-05 15:20 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-06 10:22 ` David Laight
2026-06-03 11:43 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-03 18:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-01 3:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-01 15:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-01 15:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 16:17 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:24 ` David Howells
2026-06-01 16:23 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 17:33 ` Al Viro
2026-06-01 20:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-02 0:28 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-02 8:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 18:44 ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-03 7:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04 6:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 14:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 15:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 16:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-05 15:41 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-05 20:54 ` The 8472
2026-06-04 15:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-04 16:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 17:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 9:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-06-15 6:25 ` Val Packett
2026-06-15 13:11 ` Joanne Koong
2026-06-16 1:15 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-16 6:38 ` Joanne Koong
2026-06-16 7:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-17 11:07 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-17 19:57 ` Andrei Vagin
2026-06-18 6:34 ` Andrei Vagin
2026-06-23 9:42 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-05 8:35 ` Collin Funk
2026-06-04 0:45 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-04 1:52 ` Linus Torvalds
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