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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 23:51:27 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711232346030.2364@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <165707648.21250.1511471721845.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Will Deacon will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 08:32:19PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>
> >> So what exactly is the problem of leaving out the whole cpu_opv thing
> >> for now? Pure rseq is usable -- albeit a bit cumbersome without
> >> additional debugger support.
> > 
> > Drive-by "ack" to that. I'd really like a working rseq implementation in
> > mainline, but I don't much care for another interpreter.
> 
> Considering the arm 64 use-case of reading PMU counters from user-space
> using rseq to prevent migration, I understand that you're lucky enough to
> already have a system call at your disposal that can perform the slow-path
> in case of single-stepping.
> 
> So yes, your particular case is already covered, but unfortunately that's
> not the same situation for other use-cases that have been expressed.

If we have users of rseq which can do without the other muck, then what's
the reason not to support it?

The sysops thing can be sorted out on top and the use cases which need both
will have to test for both syscalls being available anyway.

Tanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-23 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-21 14:18 [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 01/22] uapi headers: Provide types_32_64.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 02/22] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/22] arm: Add restartable sequences support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/22] arm: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <20171121141900.18471-1-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 14:18   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/22] x86: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/22] x86: Wire up restartable sequence system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 22:19   ` [PATCH update for 4.15 1/3] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <20171121221933.25959-1-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 22:22       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:16       ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 22:19   ` [PATCH update for 4.15 2/3] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <20171121221933.25959-2-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 15:20       ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 07/22] powerpc: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 08/22] powerpc: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/22] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v4 10/22] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 11/22] x86: Wire up " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 12/22] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 13/22] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v3 14/22] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121141900.18471-15-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 15:17     ` Shuah Khan
     [not found]       ` <c311cd4b-4d8f-bfb5-3731-2cb2eefa4865-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 16:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v3 15/22] rseq: selftests: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121141900.18471-16-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 15:34     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 17:05       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 17:40         ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 21:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <911090321.19621.1511299340968.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 21:24               ` Shuah Khan
     [not found]                 ` <d059d29d-83a7-f16d-dc84-05a4609a3479-JPH+aEBZ4P+UEJcrhfAQsw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 21:44                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 19:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20171122193821.GJ3165-IIpfhp3q70x9+YH6RuovlLjjLBE8jN/0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 21:16         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 21:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20171122214813.GK3165-IIpfhp3q70x9+YH6RuovlLjjLBE8jN/0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 22:53         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23  8:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20171123085511.ohwuobf5v32vggho-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23  8:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20171123085721.bzburngdsatgewjo-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24 14:15           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-24 13:55       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 16/22] rseq: selftests: arm: workaround gcc asm size guess Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121141900.18471-17-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 15:39     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 17/22] Fix: membarrier: add missing preempt off around smp_call_function_many Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 18/22] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v7 19/22] powerpc: membarrier: Skip memory barrier in switch_mm() Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v5 20/22] membarrier: Document scheduler barrier requirements Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v2 21/22] membarrier: provide SHARED_EXPEDITED command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 22/22] membarrier: selftest: Test shared expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 17:21 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Andi Kleen
     [not found]   ` <20171121172144.GL2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 22:05     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:28       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrX84s-WEa5osP0t6CKh8C4Wj7-ARNMpaSp8Eop1_2ycLA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 16:43           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <718035530.20074.1511369023901.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 18:10               ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]       ` <740195164.19702.1511301908907.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 22:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 12:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <809252084.19901.1511354219731.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 15:25               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 19:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-22 19:37           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20171122193734.GO22648-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 21:15               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <165707648.21250.1511471721845.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 22:51                   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-11-23 23:01                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                       ` <739755311.21380.1511478071883.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 23:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-24  0:04                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                             ` <1589826840.21401.1511481874141.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24 14:47                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-23 21:13           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23 21:49             ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-21 22:19 ` [PATCH update for 4.15 3/3] rseq: selftests: Provide self-tests (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121221933.25959-3-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 15:23     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-22 16:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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