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From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: Roland McGrath <roland-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	drepper-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] add rt_tgsigqueueinfo syscall [RESEND]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:46:35 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0902280046k3171c97uaf9d984bd7894e82@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090228024424.D237CFC3DA-nL1rrgvulkc2UH6IwYuUx0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

On 2/28/09, Roland McGrath <roland-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> With respect to the first point, it seems to me reasonably likely that
>> there would be use cases where the receiving thread wants to know the
>> thread ID of the sender -- especially when sender and receiver are in
>> the same process.
>
> But expecting si_pid to play that role is bizarre.

Oh -- I wasn't suggeting that si_pid do that task; I was instead
wondering if we needed an additional si_threadid field (or some such).

> It's never what any
> POSIX-like program would do, both since POSIX says si_pid is a process ID,
> and because there are no POSIX-like interfaces at all that use Linux TIDs
> to refer to threads.

(Nod.)

> Wanting this only seems plausible within one process.

We are in agreement.

> In that case, sender
> and recipient know they share memory.  The normal thing to do (and what
> POSIX applications will do) is to store that info somewhere pointed to by
> the sigval.

Good point.  That would be another of dealing with point I wondered
about, and probably better than my idea.

Cheers,

Michael

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-28  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090226133339.875832967@linutronix.de>
     [not found] ` <20090226133339.875832967-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-26 21:19   ` [patch 0/3] add rt_tgsigqueueinfo syscall [RESEND] Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]     ` <cfd18e0f0902261319v20ba7bd1pcc91ccc4b2c7d577-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-26 22:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]         ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0902262311350.9135-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-28  1:53           ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]             ` <cfd18e0f0902271753ld9b432tae6c0ee783a24480-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-28  2:44               ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]                 ` <20090228024424.D237CFC3DA-nL1rrgvulkc2UH6IwYuUx0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-28  8:46                   ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2009-02-27  0:03       ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]         ` <20090227000352.7D32BFC339-nL1rrgvulkc2UH6IwYuUx0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-23 11:14           ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903231213180.29264-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24  6:58               ` Roland McGrath

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