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From: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	steiner@sgi.com
Subject: Re: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many())
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:56:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1235156214.14523.54.camel@vayu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090220105640.GE28581@elte.hu>

On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 02:56 -0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 04:20 -0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > Could you please refresh this patch to latest tip:master? The 
> > > APIC drivers moved to arch/x86/kernel/apic/.
> > 
> > Appended the refreshed patch. Thanks.
> 
> thanks. Two details i noticed:
> 
> Firstly:
> 
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic/x2apic_cluster.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic/x2apic_phys.c
> 
> how about x2apic_uv.c? It uses uv_write_global_mmr64() in its 
> IPI sending method, which uses:
> 
> static inline void uv_write_global_mmr64(int pnode, unsigned long offset,
>                                 unsigned long val)
> {
>         *uv_global_mmr64_address(pnode, offset) = val;
> }
> 
> which uses ->mmr_base, which is mapped via:
> 
>         init_extra_mapping_uc(UV_LOCAL_MMR_BASE, UV_LOCAL_MMR_SIZE);
>
> so it should be fine because uncached - but at minimum we should 
> put a comment into x2apic_uv.c that the generic IPI code relies 
> on the lowlevel code serializing - i.e. relies on the UC PAT 
> attribute.

Oops. I forgot to mention that and copy Jack to confirm our
understanding. I can send a followup patch adding the comments for UV.
Jack, are you ok?

> 
> Secondly, you added smp_mb(), which will translate to an MFENCE. 
> 
> But in theory it should be enough to have a wmb() here. [Note, 
> not an smp_wmb() that i suggested before.] That will translate 
> to an SFENCE - which will serialize writes but still allows 
> reads/prefetches to pass.
> 
> So the question is, is an SFENCE there enough to serialize the 
> WRMSR with previous memory-writes? It's not specified in the 
> x2apic docs as far as i could see.

No. sfence is not enough (wrmsr to x2apic regs was still passing ahead).
We have done a small experiment to demonstrate the issue and adding
mfence fixes the issue but not sfence. We need a serializing instruction
or mfence. I will try to get the SDM updated.

thanks,
suresh

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-20 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-02-17 11:26                   ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:48                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:51                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18  2:15                       ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18  2:40                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 19:28                     ` Q: " Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 21:32                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:45                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:39                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18 13:52                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:09                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:21                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:21                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:33                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:58                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:05                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:10                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:17                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:23                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:14                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:47                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:33                                           ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 16:37                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-02-19  0:12                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19  6:47                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-19 13:11                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 13:11                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 15:06                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 21:49                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-18  2:21                     ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 13:59                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:23                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:43                         ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 19:17                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 23:55                             ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-19 12:20                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:29                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 12:45                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 22:00                                 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 10:56                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 18:56                                     ` Suresh Siddha [this message]
2009-02-20 18:56                                       ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 19:40                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 23:28                                       ` Jack Steiner
2009-02-25  3:32                                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 12:47                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 18:25                                         ` Luck, Tony
2009-03-17 18:16                                         ` Suresh Siddha

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