From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
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John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
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Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Vlad Poenaru <vlad.wing@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 13:03:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260624110331.iHt4U2xo@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajuWnKsQR0Z825Wn@gmail.com>
On 2026-06-24 01:37:53 [-0700], Breno Leitao wrote:
Hi Breno,
> Have you considered an approach similar to printk_deferred_enter(),
> where you mark the code region that needs deferral and all WARN() calls
> within that region are automatically deferred?
Doing this at rq-lock site is not something the scheduler department
takes. It increases/ bloats the code sides more than what we have now.
Not everything is in __sched section so we can't check for this from
within printk. So this turd was the only idea I had.
> The current proposal requires changing individual WARN() call sites,
> but whether they need deferral might depend on the calling context. This
> means you'd need to convert many call sites and ensure all nested
> warnings are also converted to the deferred variant.
I hope for the forced-threaded-legacy the default but this camp has not
a lot members. It would increase the pressure to provide nbcon so it
could be a good thing.
To accept this series and make it more bullet-proof we could do
s/WARN_ON\>/WARN_ON_DEFERRED/ for all sched/ and require it regardless
if the rq-lock is held. So you wouldn't have to audit it each and every
time. Due to that preempt-disable thingy it can be used in preemptible
sections without breaking anything.
>
> Thanks,
> --breno
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-24 11:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 14:26 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:54 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-24 6:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24 9:17 ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-23 15:12 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-23 15:49 ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24 8:37 ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-24 11:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-06-24 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 10:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Use WARN_ON.*_DEFERRED() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24 9:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Peter Zijlstra
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