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From: viresh.kumar@linaro.org (Viresh Kumar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/6] drivers base/arch_topology: frequency-invariant load-tracking support
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 09:36:43 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170622040643.GB6314@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621165714.GB2551@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 21-06-17, 17:57, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> It is true that this patch relies on the notifiers, but I don't see how
> that prevents us from adding a non-notifier based solution for
> fast-switch enabled platforms later?

No it doesn't, but I thought it would be better to have a single
solution (if possible) for all the cases here.

> > I think this patch doesn't really need to go down the notifiers way.
> > 
> > We can do something like this in the implementation of
> > topology_get_freq_scale():
> > 
> >         return (policy->cur << SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT) / max;
> > 
> > Though, we would be required to take care of policy structure in this
> > case somehow.
> 
> This is exactly what this patch implements. Unfortunately we can't be
> sure that there is a valid policy data structure where we can read the
> information from.

Actually there is a way around that.

- Revert one of my patches:
  commit f9f41e3ef99a ("cpufreq: Remove policy create/remove notifiers")

- Use those notifiers in init_cpu_capacity_callback() instead of
  CPUFREQ_NOTIFY and set/reset a local policy pointer.

- And this pointer we can use safely/reliably in
  topology_get_freq_scale(). We may need to use RCU read side
  protection in topology_get_freq_scale() though, to make sure the
  local policy pointer isn't getting updated simultaneously.

- If the policy pointer isn't set, then we can use
  SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE value instead.


> Isn't the policy protected by a lock as well?

There are locks, but you don't need any to read policy->cur.

> Another thing is that I don't think a transition notifier based solution
> or any other solution based on the cur/max ratio is really the right way
> to go for fast-switching platforms. If we can do very frequent frequency
> switching it makes less sense to use the current ratio whenever we
> update the PELT averages as the frequency might have changed multiple
> times since the last update. So it would make more sense to have an
> average ratio instead.

> If the platform has HW counters (e.g. APERF/MPERF) that can provide the
> ratio then we should of course use those, if not, one solution could be
> to let cpufreq track the average frequency for each cpu over a suitable
> time window (around one sched period I think). It should be fairly low
> overhead to maintain. In the topology driver, we would then choose
> whether the scaling factor is provided by the cpufreq average frequency
> ratio or the current transition notifier based approach based on the
> capabilities of the platform.

Hmm, maybe.

-- 
viresh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-22  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-08  7:55 [PATCH 0/6] arm, arm64: frequency- and cpu-invariant accounting support for task scheduler Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-08  7:55 ` [PATCH 1/6] drivers base/arch_topology: prepare cpufreq policy notifier for frequency-invariant load-tracking support Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-12 14:45   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-08  7:55 ` [PATCH 2/6] drivers base/arch_topology: " Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-12 14:27   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-14  7:55     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-14 13:08       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-15  8:28         ` Juri Lelli
2017-06-21 16:40         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-20  6:17   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-06-21  0:31     ` Saravana Kannan
2017-06-21  5:37       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-06-21 16:57         ` Morten Rasmussen
2017-06-22  4:06           ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2017-06-22  9:59             ` Morten Rasmussen
2017-06-21 17:08       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-21 16:38     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-22  3:55       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-06-26  8:28   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-08  7:55 ` [PATCH 3/6] arm: wire frequency-invariant accounting support up to the task scheduler Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-12 14:30   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-08  7:55 ` [PATCH 4/6] arm: wire cpu-invariant " Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-12 14:31   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-08  7:55 ` [PATCH 5/6] arm64: wire frequency-invariant " Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-12 13:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-12 14:32   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-08  7:55 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: wire cpu-invariant " Dietmar Eggemann
2017-06-12 13:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-12 14:33   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-06-12 13:00 ` [PATCH 0/6] arm, arm64: frequency- and cpu-invariant accounting support for " Juri Lelli
2017-06-12 13:04   ` Juri Lelli

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