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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3] perf kvm: add kvm-stat for arm64
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 20:52:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200917125246.GF12548@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca309fcda71944455a8c6c1b308886ba@kernel.org>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 2020-09-17 12:42, Leo Yan wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:21:15AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > > > +const char *vcpu_id_str = "id";
> > > > >
> > > > > On Arm64, ftrace tracepoint "kvm_entry" doesn't contain the field "id"
> > > > > or field "vcpu_id", thus it always reads out the "id" is 0 and it is
> > > > > recorded into Perf's structure vcpu_event_record::vcpu_id and assigned
> > > > > to perf thread's private data "thread::private".
> > > > >
> > > > > With current code, it will not mess up different vcpus' samples
> > > > > because
> > > > > now the samples are analyzed based on thread context, but since all
> > > > > threads' "vcpu_id" is zero, thus all samples are accounted for
> > > > > "vcpu_id=0" and cannot print out correct result with option "--vcpu":
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   $ perf kvm stat report --vcpu 4
> > > > >
> > > > >   Analyze events for all VMs, VCPU 4:
> > > > >
> > > > >              VM-EXIT    Samples  Samples%     Time%    Min Time
> > > > > Max Time         Avg time
> > > > >
> > > > >   Total Samples:0, Total events handled time:0.00us.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an issue I observed, if we want to support option "--vcpu",
> > > > > seems we need to change ftrace event for "kvm_entry", but this will
> > > > > break ABI.
> > > > >
> > > > > Essentially, this issue is caused by different archs using different
> > > > > format for ftrace event "kvm_entry", on x86 it contains feild
> > > > > "vcpu_id" but arm64 only just records "vcpu_pc".
> > > > >
> > > > > @Marc, @Will, do you have any suggestion for this?  Do you think it's
> > > > > feasible to add a new field "vcpu_id" into the tracepoint "kvm_entry"
> > > > > for Arm64's version?
> > > 
> > > The question really is: how will you handle the ABI breackage?
> > > I don't see a good solution for it, apart from having a *separate*
> > > tracepoint that collects all the information you need. And even that
> > > is
> > > really ugly.
> > 
> > I searched a bit and found in practice it's not impossible to add new
> > parameters for existed tracepoint, e.g. [1][2] are two examples to add
> > new parameters for existed tracepoints and have been merged into
> > mainline kernel.  IIUC, we keep the old parameters for a tracepoint
> > so this can avoid to break ABI if any apps have used this tracepoint,
> > and adding a new parameter for the tracepoint should be safe.
> > 
> > If you agree with this, I'd like to suggest to apply below change.
> > How about you think for this?
> > 
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > index 46dc3d75cf13..d9f9b8e1df77 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
> > @@ -736,7 +736,7 @@ int kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >  		/**************************************************************
> >  		 * Enter the guest
> >  		 */
> > -		trace_kvm_entry(*vcpu_pc(vcpu));
> > +		trace_kvm_entry(vcpu->vcpu_id, *vcpu_pc(vcpu));
> >  		guest_enter_irqoff();
> > 
> >  		ret = kvm_call_hyp_ret(__kvm_vcpu_run, vcpu);
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/trace_arm.h b/arch/arm64/kvm/trace_arm.h
> > index 4691053c5ee4..e1d3e7a67e8b 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/trace_arm.h
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/trace_arm.h
> > @@ -12,18 +12,20 @@
> >   * Tracepoints for entry/exit to guest
> >   */
> >  TRACE_EVENT(kvm_entry,
> > -	TP_PROTO(unsigned long vcpu_pc),
> > -	TP_ARGS(vcpu_pc),
> > +	TP_PROTO(unsigned int vcpu_id, unsigned long vcpu_pc),
> > +	TP_ARGS(vcpu_id, vcpu_pc),
> > 
> >  	TP_STRUCT__entry(
> > +		__field(	unsigned int,	vcpu_id		)
> >  		__field(	unsigned long,	vcpu_pc		)
> >  	),
> > 
> >  	TP_fast_assign(
> > +		__entry->vcpu_id		= vcpu_id;
> >  		__entry->vcpu_pc		= vcpu_pc;
> >  	),
> > 
> > -	TP_printk("PC: 0x%08lx", __entry->vcpu_pc)
> > +	TP_printk("vcpu: %u, PC: 0x%08lx", __entry->vcpu_id, __entry->vcpu_pc)
> >  );
> > 
> >  TRACE_EVENT(kvm_exit,
> > 
> 
> How is that not breaking the ABI? You are adding a new field, and anything
> that expect to read 'PC: 0x.....' at the beginning of the line now fails.
> The examples you give are also blatant ABI breakages. because it is done
> somewhere else doesn't make it valid.
> 
> Anything that can be parsed by userspace is ABI. If you don't believe me,
> please read the entertaining discussion we had when we tried to drop
> Bogomips from /proc/cpuinfo.

The discussion thread was too long [1] to read all replies :)

... but I understand we should be very careful for ABI breakage.

> So unless you get me Linus' stamp of approval for this, it's not happening.
> Feel free to add a *new* tracepoint instead.

Okay, thanks for the info and suggestions.

Thanks,
Leo

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/1/4/132

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-17 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-17  0:36 [PATCHv3] perf kvm: add kvm-stat for arm64 Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-17  8:47 ` Leo Yan
2020-09-17  9:54   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-17 10:09 ` Leo Yan
2020-09-17 10:12   ` Leo Yan
2020-09-17 10:21     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17 11:00       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-17 13:08         ` Leo Yan
2020-09-17 11:42       ` Leo Yan
2020-09-17 11:53         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17 12:52           ` Leo Yan [this message]
2020-09-18  0:32           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-18  8:20             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-18 10:35               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-18 10:55                 ` Marc Zyngier

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