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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Jeffrey Hugo <jeffrey.l.hugo@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Yassine Oudjana <y.oudjana@protonmail.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: cache: Lower ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 (L1_CACHE_BYTES)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 09:48:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210709084842.GA24432@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOCk7NqdpUZFMSXfGjw0_1NaSK5gyTLgpS9kSdZn1jmBy-QkfA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 02:59:28PM -0600, Jeffrey Hugo wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:41 AM Jeffrey Hugo <jeffrey.l.hugo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 3:30 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:20 PM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think the million dollar question is whether the 128-byte cache-lines
> > > > live in a cache above the PoC or not. If it's just a system level cache
> > > > through which all DMA is "coherent", then it doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:24 AM Yassine Oudjana
> > > <y.oudjana@protonmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, July 7th, 2021 at 12:33 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 7:15 PM Yassine Oudjana y.oudjana@protonmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ numactl -C 0 line -M 1M
> > > > > > 128
> > > > > > $ numactl -C 3 line -M 1M
> > > > > > 128
> > > > >
> > > > >     Can you rerun the the 'line' test with '-M 128K' to see if that confirms the 64
> > > > >     byte L1 line size that the 'cache' test reported?
> > > >
> > > > $ numactl -C 0 line -M 128K
> > > > 64
> > > > $ numactl -C 3 line -M 128K
> > > > 64
> > >
> > > Ok, so this seems to confirm that the L1 uses 64 byte lines, while the L2 (or
> > > possibly L3) uses 128 byte lines.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 12:27 AM Bjorn Andersson
> > > <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can confirm that MSM8996, and a few derivatives, has 128 byte cache lines.
> > >
> > > Ok, thanks. Assuming this is an outer cache and the L1 indeed has a smaller line
> > > size, can you also confirm that this 128 byte lines are north of the point of
> > > coherency?
> >
> > Finding this old documentation has been painful  :)
> >
> > L0 I 64 byte cacheline
> > L1 I 64
> > L1 D 64
> > L2 unified 128 (shared between the CPUs of a duplex)
> >
> > I believe L2 is within the POC, but I'm trying to dig up the old
> > documentation to confirm.
> 
> Was able to track down a friendly hardware designer.  The POC lies
> between L2 and L3.  Hope this helps.

Damn, yes, it's bad news but thanks for chasing it up. I'll revert the patch
at -rc1 and add a comment about MSM8996.

Will

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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2021-05-27 12:43 ` [PATCH] arm64: cache: Lower ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 (L1_CACHE_BYTES) Will Deacon
2021-05-27 13:11   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-27 13:19   ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-28  9:35     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-01 10:14       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-31  5:38   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-06-01 18:21   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 13:25   ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-02 13:51     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-02 14:09       ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-02 14:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-02 14:28           ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-02 14:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-07 12:17               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-04 10:01         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07  9:58           ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-07 12:01             ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:08               ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:39                 ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 13:56                   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-07 15:17                     ` Maxime Ripard
2021-06-07 15:50                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-08  8:57                         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 15:32                     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-02 14:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-02 14:15         ` Marek Szyprowski
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2021-07-06 10:26     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-06 13:29       ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 13:33         ` Will Deacon
2021-07-06 13:44           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-07-06 14:21             ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 14:30             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 14:46               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-07-06 15:43                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 17:15                   ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-06 20:33                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 22:27                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-07  9:27                         ` Will Deacon
2021-07-07  8:24                       ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-07  9:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07 14:41                           ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-07-08 20:59                             ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-07-09  8:48                               ` Will Deacon [this message]
2021-07-09 17:10                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-06 16:20               ` Will Deacon

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