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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Kazuki <kazukih0205@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>, Sven Peter <sven@svenpeter.dev>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: s2idle breaks on machines without cpuidle support
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 10:12:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230206101239.dret3fv65cnzpken@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230204152747.drte4uitljzngdt6@kazuki-mac>

Hi Kazaki,

On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 12:27:47AM +0900, Kazuki wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> s2idle is blocked on machines without proper cpuidle support here
> in kernel/sched/idle.c:
> 
> > if (cpuidle_not_available(drv, dev)) {
> > 	tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
> 
> > 	default_idle_call();
> > 	goto exit_idle;
> > }
> 
> > /*
> >  * Suspend-to-idle ("s2idle") is a system state in which all user space
> >  * has been frozen, all I/O devices have been suspended and the only
> 
> However, there are 2 problems with this approach:
> 
> 1. The suspend framework does not expect this, and continues to suspend the
> machine, which causes machines without proper cpuidle support to break when
> suspending

What do you mean by break ? More details on the observation would be helpful.

> 2. Suspend actually works on ARM64 machines even without proper
> cpuidle (PSCI cpuidle) since they support wfi, so the assumption here is wrong
> on such machines
>

Sorry I am bit confused here. Your point (2) contradicts the $subject.

> I'm not exactly sure how to figure this out, and my attempts have all led to an
> unbootable kernel, so I've cc'ed the relevant people and hopefully we can find a
> solution to this problem.
>

Again, since s2idle is userspace driven, I don't understand what do you
mean by unbootable kernel in the context of s2idle.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-04 15:27 s2idle breaks on machines without cpuidle support Kazuki
2023-02-06 10:12 ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2023-02-07 19:48   ` Kazuki
2023-02-08 10:35     ` Sudeep Holla
2023-02-08 11:20       ` Kazuki
2023-02-08 14:16         ` Sudeep Holla
2023-02-08 14:43           ` Kazuki
2023-02-08 15:03             ` Sudeep Holla
2023-02-08 15:19               ` Kazuki
2023-02-08 15:34                 ` Sudeep Holla
2023-02-08 15:42                   ` Kazuki
2023-02-08 14:52           ` Kazuki
2023-02-08 15:42       ` Hector Martin
2023-02-08 16:18         ` Sudeep Holla
2023-02-08 16:45           ` Hector Martin
2023-09-07 19:11             ` Florian Fainelli

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