From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] drm: bridge: dw_hdmi: Add flag to indicate output port is optional
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:36:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250101223620.GA7206@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88778e2b-8c43-46a1-bb79-0d9c968a5233@denx.de>
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 12/31/24 9:31 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hi Marek,
>
> Hi,
>
> > Thank you for the patch.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 08:28:48PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> >> Add a flag meant purely to work around broken i.MX8MP DTs which enable
> >> HDMI but do not contain the HDMI connector node. This flag allows such
> >> DTs to work by creating the connector in the HDMI bridge driver. Do not
> >> use this flag, do not proliferate this flag, please fix your DTs.
> >
> > What's the rationale for this, what prevents fixing DT instead of using
> > this flag ? Adding such a flag will most likely open the door to
> > proliferation.
>
> See the V2 series discussion, there are a few in-tree DTs which do not
> have the HDMI connector node. The rationale is there might be more and
> they might come from vendors, so this flag is necessary to work around
> those DTs.
>
> > If you can't fix the DT on particular boards, patching it could be an
> > option. We had a similar problem on Renesas boards, which we fixed with
> > a DT overlay, see commit 81c0e3dd82927064 ("drm: rcar-du: Fix legacy DT
> > to create LVDS encoder nodes"). This made the workaround self-contained,
> > and allowed dropping it several kernel versions later (in commit
> > 841281fe52a769fe, "drm: rcar-du: Drop LVDS device tree backward
> > compatibility").
>
> Frankly, I would much rather fix the few in-tree DTs and mandate the
> HDMI connector node in DT, which would keep the code simple, rather than
> maintain a backward compatibility workaround for problem which might not
> even exist.
The in-tree device tree sources should be converted as part of the
series, I don't see a point trying to maintain backward compatibility
for in-tree DT sources.
For out-of-tree sources it depends on how likely the problem is. There's
no regression if nobody is affected. I personally like restricting
backward compatibility to the strict minimum, to ensure that all new DTs
will use proper bindings. Making the backward compatibility code
self-contained helps there, and we could also print a loud warning
(WARN_ON() seems appropriate) and set a date for the removal of the
workaround.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-01 22:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-31 19:28 [PATCH v3 1/4] drm: bridge: dw_hdmi: Add flag to indicate output port is optional Marek Vasut
2024-12-31 19:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] drm/bridge: imx8mp-hdmi-tx: switch to bridge DRM_BRIDGE_ATTACH_NO_CONNECTOR Marek Vasut
2025-01-02 4:55 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-02 23:22 ` Marek Vasut
2025-01-03 5:37 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-03 9:42 ` Liu Ying
2024-12-31 19:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] drm/lcdif: add DRM_BRIDGE_ATTACH_NO_CONNECTOR flag to drm_bridge_attach Marek Vasut
2025-01-02 17:58 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-02 23:20 ` Marek Vasut
2025-01-03 5:36 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-31 19:28 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] drm/mxsfb: " Marek Vasut
2024-12-31 20:31 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] drm: bridge: dw_hdmi: Add flag to indicate output port is optional Laurent Pinchart
2024-12-31 21:10 ` Marek Vasut
2025-01-01 22:36 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2025-01-02 1:15 ` Marek Vasut
2025-01-02 3:26 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-02 8:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-03 5:33 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-02 4:51 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
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