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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/11] drm/connector: hdmi: limit infoframes per driver capabilities
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 10:54:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251219-honest-slim-crab-02e932@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5dyhjur3hkhvtlwrl4h2m342byor7f3ssvkunj4cggnhbhlmnb@l2mfz7ypjj37>

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On Sat, Dec 06, 2025 at 01:28:14PM +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 06:01:56PM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 07:09:01PM +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > > So it's not really impossible, you just need some hardware and a day's
> > > > worth of work.
> > > > 
> > > > There's no reason these should get a pass, it's breaking the spec for no
> > > > reason.
> > > > 
> > > > > > For SPD, It's really not clear to me why atomic_check should do that in
> > > > > > the first place. Your initial concern was about exposing infoframes in
> > > > > > debugfs that wouldn't be used by the driver.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If the driver doesn't register a debugfs file for SPD, and ignores
> > > > > > whatever is in the atomic state, what's should we force drivers to do
> > > > > > that?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I really don't think that drivers should mess up with debugfs on their
> > > > > own. Making atomic_check() disable the unsupported InfoFrames makes the
> > > > > picture perfect: the DRM no longer tries to program them to the
> > > > > hardware, DebugFS files stay empty, so the whole state becomes
> > > > > consistent.
> > > > 
> > > > In the "bridge has no access to infoframes" case, there's really no
> > > > infoframe. An empty file is "the infoframe can be there but isn't used",
> > > > not "we don't have access to it and can't report them". Only drivers
> > > > have those infos.
> > > > 
> > > > If we do split up write_infoframe into multiple functions though, I
> > > > guess we could create the debugfs file only if the function pointer is
> > > > set, which removes drivers' involvement if you don't like that.
> > > 
> > > I'm fine with not using HDMI connector framework for lt9611uxc.
> > > Likewise, I think, it's fine to have empty files for the infoframes
> > > which are not being sent over the wire for any reason (hw not supporting
> > > it is one of the reasons).
> > 
> > I can't think of any other example in the kernel where an empty file
> > means that the driver doesn't support something.
> 
> Okay. So we need to sort out implementing the split write_infoframes in
> drm_bridge_connector. Any suggestions there? I'm asking, because I don't
> want to end up exploding it.

I guess it's only really a problem if we want to make it const, but we
don't have to? We could just as well allocate the structure directly at
probe with a drmm helper and fill it as we need to.

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-19  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-30  0:22 [PATCH v3 00/11] drm/connector: hdmi: limit infoframes per driver capabilities Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] drm/connector: let drivers declare infoframes as unsupported Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-01  7:03   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-08-30  0:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] drm/bridge: adv7511: declare supported infoframes Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-01  7:12   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  3:13     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] drm/bridge: ite-it6263: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] drm/bridge: lontium-lt9611: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] drm/bridge: synopsys/dw-hdmi-qp: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  7:30   ` Daniel Stone
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] drm/msm: hdmi: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] drm/rockchip: rk3066: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 12:08   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] drm/display: bridge_connector: drop default list for HDMI Infoframes Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] drm/connector: verify that HDMI connectors support necessary InfoFrames Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  7:34   ` Daniel Stone
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] drm/display: hdmi-audio: warn if HDMI connector doesn't support Audio IF Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  0:23 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] drm/bridge: lontium-lt9611uxc: switch to HDMI audio helpers Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30  7:30 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] drm/connector: hdmi: limit infoframes per driver capabilities Daniel Stone
2025-08-30  7:38   ` Daniel Stone
2025-08-30 22:29   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-31 13:46     ` Daniel Stone
2025-09-01  7:07     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  3:45       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02 18:06         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-03  0:03           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-10  7:30             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-10 15:26               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-25 13:13                 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-25 14:16                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-29 13:00                     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-30  7:02                       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-03 13:22                         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-03 15:54                           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-14 12:59                             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-14 15:48                               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-11-21 15:36                                 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-21 17:09                                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-12-01 17:01                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-06 11:28                                       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-12-19  9:54                                         ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2025-12-19  9:56                                           ` Dmitry Baryshkov

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