From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/11] drm/connector: hdmi: limit infoframes per driver capabilities
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 11:56:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0acccc3-00d9-4235-9b4a-f4498b2896ac@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251219-honest-slim-crab-02e932@houat>
On 19/12/2025 11:54, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2025 at 01:28:14PM +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 06:01:56PM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 07:09:01PM +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>>>> So it's not really impossible, you just need some hardware and a day's
>>>>> worth of work.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's no reason these should get a pass, it's breaking the spec for no
>>>>> reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> For SPD, It's really not clear to me why atomic_check should do that in
>>>>>>> the first place. Your initial concern was about exposing infoframes in
>>>>>>> debugfs that wouldn't be used by the driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the driver doesn't register a debugfs file for SPD, and ignores
>>>>>>> whatever is in the atomic state, what's should we force drivers to do
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really don't think that drivers should mess up with debugfs on their
>>>>>> own. Making atomic_check() disable the unsupported InfoFrames makes the
>>>>>> picture perfect: the DRM no longer tries to program them to the
>>>>>> hardware, DebugFS files stay empty, so the whole state becomes
>>>>>> consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the "bridge has no access to infoframes" case, there's really no
>>>>> infoframe. An empty file is "the infoframe can be there but isn't used",
>>>>> not "we don't have access to it and can't report them". Only drivers
>>>>> have those infos.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we do split up write_infoframe into multiple functions though, I
>>>>> guess we could create the debugfs file only if the function pointer is
>>>>> set, which removes drivers' involvement if you don't like that.
>>>>
>>>> I'm fine with not using HDMI connector framework for lt9611uxc.
>>>> Likewise, I think, it's fine to have empty files for the infoframes
>>>> which are not being sent over the wire for any reason (hw not supporting
>>>> it is one of the reasons).
>>>
>>> I can't think of any other example in the kernel where an empty file
>>> means that the driver doesn't support something.
>>
>> Okay. So we need to sort out implementing the split write_infoframes in
>> drm_bridge_connector. Any suggestions there? I'm asking, because I don't
>> want to end up exploding it.
>
> I guess it's only really a problem if we want to make it const, but we
> don't have to? We could just as well allocate the structure directly at
> probe with a drmm helper and fill it as we need to.
Yes, I wanted to keep it const, as we usually do for all function
tables. I will use drmm_alloc for it.
--
With best wishes
Dmitry
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-19 9:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-30 0:22 [PATCH v3 00/11] drm/connector: hdmi: limit infoframes per driver capabilities Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] drm/connector: let drivers declare infoframes as unsupported Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-01 7:03 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-08-30 0:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] drm/bridge: adv7511: declare supported infoframes Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-01 7:12 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 3:13 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] drm/bridge: ite-it6263: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] drm/bridge: lontium-lt9611: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] drm/bridge: synopsys/dw-hdmi-qp: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 7:30 ` Daniel Stone
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] drm/msm: hdmi: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] drm/rockchip: rk3066: " Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 12:08 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] drm/display: bridge_connector: drop default list for HDMI Infoframes Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] drm/connector: verify that HDMI connectors support necessary InfoFrames Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 7:34 ` Daniel Stone
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] drm/display: hdmi-audio: warn if HDMI connector doesn't support Audio IF Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 0:23 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] drm/bridge: lontium-lt9611uxc: switch to HDMI audio helpers Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-30 7:30 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] drm/connector: hdmi: limit infoframes per driver capabilities Daniel Stone
2025-08-30 7:38 ` Daniel Stone
2025-08-30 22:29 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-31 13:46 ` Daniel Stone
2025-09-01 7:07 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 3:45 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02 18:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-03 0:03 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-10 7:30 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-10 15:26 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-25 13:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-25 14:16 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-29 13:00 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-30 7:02 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-03 13:22 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-03 15:54 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-14 12:59 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-14 15:48 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-11-21 15:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-21 17:09 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-12-01 17:01 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-06 11:28 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-12-19 9:54 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-12-19 9:56 ` Dmitry Baryshkov [this message]
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