* Re: [RFC v2 PATCH] reserve_mem: add support for static memory [not found] ` <ajyC2eX9MKSU84Z8@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net> @ 2026-06-25 8:37 ` Mike Rapoport 2026-06-26 14:54 ` Shyam Saini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Mike Rapoport @ 2026-06-25 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Shyam Saini Cc: linux-mm, linux-doc, linux-kernel, akpm, tgopinath, bboscaccy, kees, tony.luck, gpiccoli, bp, rdunlap, peterz, feng.tang, dapeng1.mi, elver, enelsonmoore, kuba, lirongqing, ebiggers, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Ard Biesheuvel, David Hildenbrand, linux-arm-kernel Hi Shyam, On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 06:22:33PM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote: > On 21 Jun 2026 13:36, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 11:23:31PM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote: > > > reserve_mem relies on dynamic memory allocation, this limits the > > > usecase where memory is required to be preserved across the boots. > > > Eg: ramoops memory reservation on ACPI platforms > > > > > > So add support to pass a pre-determined static address and reserve > > > memory at a specified location. This enables use case like ramoops > > > on ACPI platforms to reliably access ramoops region with previous > > > boot logs. > > > > > > Also skip the parsing of <align> when static address is passed. > > > > > > Example syntax for static address > > > reserve_mem=4M@0x1E0000000:oops > > > > reserve_mem is best effort by design because such hacks as well as memmap= > > cannot guarantee this memory is actually free. > > > > If you want to preserve ramoops reliably, use KHO with reserve_mem. > > The first kernel will allocate memory, this memory will be preserved by KHO > > and could be picked up by the second kernel. > > ok, On ARM64 DTS systems, we can reserve ramoops memory in the device tree during > the warm reboot. The cc list actually implied x86 ;-) Added arm64 folks now. > For an equivalent ARM64 ACPI platform, what is the recommended way to reserve > and preserve that memory across the boots? I don't think it exists, but a command line option (be it memmap= or reserve_mem=) does not seem the right way to me. Most of the arguments that were made against adding memmap= to arm64 [1] apply here. If kexec is an option, KHO provides a reliable way to preserve memory across boots. If kexec is not an option, we should look for a generic way to specify something like DT's reserved_mem for ACPI/EFI systems. [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/lkml/20201118063314.22940-1-song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com/T/ > Thanks, > Shyam -- Sincerely yours, Mike. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC v2 PATCH] reserve_mem: add support for static memory 2026-06-25 8:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH] reserve_mem: add support for static memory Mike Rapoport @ 2026-06-26 14:54 ` Shyam Saini 2026-06-30 17:09 ` Shyam Saini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Shyam Saini @ 2026-06-26 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mike Rapoport Cc: linux-mm, linux-doc, linux-kernel, akpm, tgopinath, bboscaccy, kees, tony.luck, gpiccoli, bp, rdunlap, peterz, feng.tang, dapeng1.mi, elver, enelsonmoore, kuba, lirongqing, ebiggers, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Ard Biesheuvel, David Hildenbrand, linux-arm-kernel On 25 Jun 2026 11:37, Mike Rapoport wrote: > Hi Shyam, > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 06:22:33PM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote: > > On 21 Jun 2026 13:36, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 11:23:31PM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote: > > > > reserve_mem relies on dynamic memory allocation, this limits the > > > > usecase where memory is required to be preserved across the boots. > > > > Eg: ramoops memory reservation on ACPI platforms > > > > > > > > So add support to pass a pre-determined static address and reserve > > > > memory at a specified location. This enables use case like ramoops > > > > on ACPI platforms to reliably access ramoops region with previous > > > > boot logs. > > > > > > > > Also skip the parsing of <align> when static address is passed. > > > > > > > > Example syntax for static address > > > > reserve_mem=4M@0x1E0000000:oops > > > > > > reserve_mem is best effort by design because such hacks as well as memmap= > > > cannot guarantee this memory is actually free. > > > > > > If you want to preserve ramoops reliably, use KHO with reserve_mem. > > > The first kernel will allocate memory, this memory will be preserved by KHO > > > and could be picked up by the second kernel. > > > > ok, On ARM64 DTS systems, we can reserve ramoops memory in the device tree during > > the warm reboot. > > The cc list actually implied x86 ;-) > Added arm64 folks now. Thanks for adding ARM folks, I had just included whatever get_maintainer script suggested, sorry. > > For an equivalent ARM64 ACPI platform, what is the recommended way to reserve > > and preserve that memory across the boots? > > I don't think it exists, but a command line option (be it memmap= or > reserve_mem=) does not seem the right way to me. > > Most of the arguments that were made against adding memmap= to arm64 [1] > apply here. > > If kexec is an option, KHO provides a reliable way to preserve memory > across boots. > > If kexec is not an option, we should look for a generic way to specify > something like DT's reserved_mem for ACPI/EFI systems. > > [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/lkml/20201118063314.22940-1-song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com/T/ > Well, kexec is one of the option for my use case, it also requires memory reservation during warm reboot, I think memory can be reserved in the firmware but this will create a dependency on firmware for Linux reservation. It would be great to have a in kernel memory reservation mechanism for ARM64 ACPI platforms. I believe some other use cases like PMEM reservation would also benefit from this. Thanks, Shyam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC v2 PATCH] reserve_mem: add support for static memory 2026-06-26 14:54 ` Shyam Saini @ 2026-06-30 17:09 ` Shyam Saini 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Shyam Saini @ 2026-06-30 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: shyamsaini, ardb, catalin.marinas, david, linux-arm-kernel, will Cc: akpm, bboscaccy, bp, dapeng1.mi, ebiggers, elver, enelsonmoore, feng.tang, gpiccoli, kees, kuba, linux-doc, linux-kernel, linux-mm, lirongqing, peterz, rdunlap, rppt, tgopinath, tony.luck Hi Everyone, > On 25 Jun 2026 11:37, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > Hi Shyam, > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 06:22:33PM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote: > > > On 21 Jun 2026 13:36, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 11:23:31PM -0700, Shyam Saini wrote: > > > > > reserve_mem relies on dynamic memory allocation, this limits the > > > > > usecase where memory is required to be preserved across the boots. > > > > > Eg: ramoops memory reservation on ACPI platforms > > > > > > > > > > So add support to pass a pre-determined static address and reserve > > > > > memory at a specified location. This enables use case like ramoops > > > > > on ACPI platforms to reliably access ramoops region with previous > > > > > boot logs. > > > > > > > > > > Also skip the parsing of <align> when static address is passed. > > > > > > > > > > Example syntax for static address > > > > > reserve_mem=4M@0x1E0000000:oops > > > > > > > > reserve_mem is best effort by design because such hacks as well as memmap= > > > > cannot guarantee this memory is actually free. > > > > > > > > If you want to preserve ramoops reliably, use KHO with reserve_mem. > > > > The first kernel will allocate memory, this memory will be preserved by KHO > > > > and could be picked up by the second kernel. > > > > > > ok, On ARM64 DTS systems, we can reserve ramoops memory in the device tree during > > > the warm reboot. > > > > The cc list actually implied x86 ;-) > > Added arm64 folks now. > > Thanks for adding ARM folks, I had just included whatever get_maintainer script > suggested, sorry. > > > For an equivalent ARM64 ACPI platform, what is the recommended way to reserve > > > and preserve that memory across the boots? > > > > I don't think it exists, but a command line option (be it memmap= or > > reserve_mem=) does not seem the right way to me. > > > > Most of the arguments that were made against adding memmap= to arm64 [1] > > apply here. > > > > If kexec is an option, KHO provides a reliable way to preserve memory > > across boots. > > > > If kexec is not an option, we should look for a generic way to specify > > something like DT's reserved_mem for ACPI/EFI systems. > > > > [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/lkml/20201118063314.22940-1-song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com/T/ > > > Well, kexec is one of the option for my use case, it also requires > memory reservation during warm reboot, I think memory can be reserved in > the firmware but this will create a dependency on firmware for Linux > reservation. > > It would be great to have a in kernel memory reservation mechanism for > ARM64 ACPI platforms. I believe some other use cases like PMEM > reservation would also benefit from this. > Following up on this, As Mike pointed that reserve_mem is best effort reservation mechanism, so what is the recommended reliable Linux mechanism, if any, to reserve a predetermined memory range during early boot on ARM64/ACPI platforms for warm boot scenarios? KHO is one option, but I'm specifically looking for a solution that preserves the region across warm reboots. Please let me know. Thanks, Shyam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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