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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>
To: Sneh Mankad <sneh.mankad@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: Disallow disabling boot CPU based on config
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:53:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260721-wandering-romantic-buffalo-ebbc4f@sudeepholla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <al9uRagYJSQPJr7_@J2N7QTR9R3.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 02:04:05PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 12:29:54PM +0530, Sneh Mankad wrote:
> > On 03-Jul-26 7:58 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 04:50:02PM +0530, Sneh Mankad wrote:
> > 
> > FW permits CPU0 disablement because it functions properly in regular run time.
> > But there is an additional hardware constraint in above mentioned platforms, that
> > suspend to ram has to be performed via boot CPU / CPU0. Due to this constraint,
> > CPU0 is required to be online when suspend to ram is triggered.
> 
> The PSCI spec doesn't permit that.
> 
> Even if HW has that constraint, it's up to FW to hide that from the OS.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > This is a platform-specific property, and it's possible to build a
> > > kernel that boots on this platform and/or other platforms.
> > 
> > Yes, but for that reason the config will only be enabled for SoCs that have this
> > constraint, it will remain disabled for other SoCs.
> 
> Please re-read what I said. A config option can't help if you have a
> single kernel that supports multiple platforms.
> 

+1

> > As mentioned above, its not a FW bug. CPU0 is allowed to be disabled
> > from FW and HW constraint is for suspend to ram to be performed on
> > boot CPU.
> 
> Please see my other reply at:
> 
>   https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/al9tdvOxYb83zBxd@J2N7QTR9R3.cambridge.arm.com/T/#m872da3cc4ded3386dce92d4bd4bdf9c33d3e2d0b
> 
> This is *definitely* a firmware bug.
> 
> To be clear, I'm not saying we can't do something to address that, but
> let's not pretend that this is compliant with the PSCI spec.
>

+1

Just curious if CPU_OFF on this CPU0 returns DENIED or just proceeds and
ends up with cpu and/or system hang ?

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03 11:20 [PATCH v2] arm64: Disallow disabling boot CPU based on config Sneh Mankad
2026-07-03 14:28 ` Mark Rutland
2026-07-03 21:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-21  6:59   ` Sneh Mankad
2026-07-21 13:04     ` Mark Rutland
2026-07-21 13:53       ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2026-07-28 10:31         ` Ulf Hansson
2026-07-03 15:51 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-07-04  6:43   ` Daniel Lezcano
2026-07-06  9:16     ` Sudeep Holla
2026-07-09 13:00       ` Daniel Lezcano
2026-07-21  9:28       ` Sneh Mankad
2026-07-21 13:00         ` Mark Rutland
2026-07-21 14:05         ` Sudeep Holla

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