From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/7] firmware: smccc: Add an Arm SMCCC bus
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2026 17:18:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260903-nonchalant-capable-parrot-539c8b@sudeepholla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260903154626.GL4157646@nvidia.com>
On Thu, Sep 03, 2026 at 12:46:26PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 03, 2026 at 08:05:40PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2026 at 02:22:51PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have updated the bus to match devices using func_id.
> > >
> > > Did you have any thoughts on how to handle ARM's versioning scheme
> > > too?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what the rules are but it seems like if the major changes
> > > then the API is incompatible? So shouldn't every driver advertise a
> > > supported major, and the major be in the modalias and checked by match
> > > too?
> >
> > I expect a single driver to handle the RSI features and determine the
> > version range it supports. I don't think we want multiple drivers, each
> > handling a different major version of the RMM release.
>
> I thought the plan was we are only going to support RMM V2 and there
> will, never, ever be a V3. :) So RMM is maybe a bit different..
>
> > Given that, wouldn't it be sufficient for the driver's probe routine
> > to check the supported version range and return -ENODEV if it is
> > unsupported?
>
> It is sufficient, but is that what you want? Every driver needs to
> manually check these version things, do they? Do we want this
> duplication?
Oh yes, we need this whatever you term as "duplication". I would argue
against terming it as duplications as if you look at the various SMCCC
based specification, we have zero consistency in how the VERSION command
is expected to work. The only consistency is returning
SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED if not supported and that's the max a generic
SMCCC bus code can check. All other details need to be deferred to the
individual SMCCC drivers.
> Missing a check means FW upgrades might become Linux breaking.
>
Are you referring to the SMCCC bus code or RSI in particular above. I don't
see any issue with SMCCC bus code check as that is the least we can do and
must not change with future versions of the firmware as well.
If it is specific to RSI and the driver supports v2.0 and the firmware
is upgraded to v3.0, it really depends on what the v3.0 firmware returns
in these 2 values:
Lower RsiInterfaceVersion : Lower supported interface revision
Higher RsiInterfaceVersion : Higher supported interface revision
If lower is also set at v3.0, then I would argue it is firmware upgrade
issue expecting old kernel with old RSI version supported to work. If
that returns v2.0, the driver must work IIUC. Aneesh, hopefully I got this
right ?
--
Regards,
Sudeep
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-03 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-05 6:32 [PATCH v9 0/7] Switch Arm SMCCC firmware services to an SMCCC bus Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] firmware: smccc: Add an Arm " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-28 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 8:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-03 12:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 14:13 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-09-03 14:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 14:35 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-03 15:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 16:18 ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2026-09-03 18:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-04 5:50 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-04 10:02 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-09-04 13:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-04 14:27 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-09-04 17:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] firmware: hwrng: arm_smccc_trng: Register as an SMCCC device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-05 11:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-28 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-29 5:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-29 19:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Move RSI support out of arch/arm64 Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-05 11:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-05 13:05 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-10 10:03 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-28 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-29 5:58 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] arm64: realm: Move Realm memory encryption ops to RSI code Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-10 10:12 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-10 12:15 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] virt: coco: arm-cca-guest: Rename TSM report source file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-28 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-29 6:02 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-29 19:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] firmware: smccc: arm-cca-guest: Bind the TSM provider to an SMCCC device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-28 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-29 6:12 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-29 19:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-05 6:32 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] coco: guest: arm64: Replace dummy CCA device with sysfs ABI Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-28 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-05 9:51 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] Switch Arm SMCCC firmware services to an SMCCC bus Catalin Marinas
2026-08-05 12:22 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-10 9:35 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-08-10 10:24 ` Will Deacon
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