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From: Bill Roberts <bill.roberts@foss.arm.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Jesse Huang <jesse.huang@sifive.com>
Cc: "linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	debug@rivosinc.com, andrew@sifive.com, kito.cheng@sifive.com
Subject: Re: Shadow Stack Locking Semantics between arch's
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:19:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <615d5d1a-5266-4b83-bff2-21c8f3840040@foss.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ef9f4ab-4c9f-4089-bed3-f7726ec97804@foss.arm.com>


On 9/9/26 12:57 PM, Bill Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> 2. riscv should check that the low bit is set in locking not just 
>>> that its
>>> 0, it should be 1
>> I think for ABI compatibility RISC-V will have to continue accepting 0
>> as being equivalent to locking PR_SHADOW_STACK_ENABLE (or everything,
>> but it only supports that one bit right now).
>
> TL;DR - No users, lets fix it before risc-v lands the userspace side IIUC
>
> I can't find any libc's that support this for risc-v. It appears the 
> glibc
> patches were not merged and I commented on those patches just now
> that the interface is wrong:
>   - 
> https://inbox.sourceware.org/libc-alpha/8a5e21d0-0628-4910-9ad8-165c829e9680@foss.arm.com/
>
> Additionally, stress-ng does it "generically", and it would be broken 
> on a riscv system:
>   - 
> https://sources.debian.org/src/stress-ng/0.22.00-2/stress-prctl.c?hl=1144#L1144
>
> This is a bug and never followed the convention to begin with. So 
> risc-v is
> non-compliant to the spec and this effectively prevents the a true 
> unification
> of a generic prctl interface. The behavior on riscv doesn't adhere to 
> there own docs:
>
>   - 
> https://cdn.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/arch/riscv/zicfiss.html#prctl-enabling 


Sorry I confused two interfaces here, anyway, 
arch_set_shadow_stack_status is fine,
it's the locking interface arch_lock_shadow_stack_status, code snippet 
below:

/* If shtstk not supported or not enabled on task, nothing to lock here */
if (!is_user_shstk_enabled() ||
     !is_shstk_enabled(task) || arg != 0)
         return -EINVAL;

So even the glibc patches will be fine. But definitely something we want 
to fix.
I am going to float a patch over to the risc-v folks.





      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27 17:15 Shadow Stack Locking Semantics between arch's Bill Roberts
2026-08-27 17:52 ` Bill Roberts
2026-08-27 18:14   ` Mark Brown
2026-08-27 21:27     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-27 21:41       ` Mark Brown
2026-08-27 22:37         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28 13:27           ` Mark Brown
2026-08-28 16:48             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28 17:11               ` Mark Brown
2026-09-09 17:57     ` Bill Roberts
2026-09-09 18:06       ` Mark Brown
2026-09-09 20:01         ` Bill Roberts
2026-09-10 14:19       ` Bill Roberts [this message]

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