From: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
peterz@infradead.org, jirislaby@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org,
mark.rutland@arm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, oneukum@suse.com,
roman.penyaev@profitbricks.com, asahi@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] workqueue: Fix memory ordering race in queue_work*()
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 01:22:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <74559da4-5cd4-7cc4-0303-ab5f6a8b92ae@marcan.st> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvuvxnfHIRUAuCrD@boqun-archlinux>
On 16/08/2022 23.55, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 02:41:57PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>> It's worth noting that with the spinlock-based implementation (i.e.
>> prior to e986a0d6cb36) then we would have the same problem on
>> architectures that implement spinlocks with acquire/release semantics;
>> accesses from outside of the critical section can drift in and reorder
>> with each other there, so the conversion looked legitimate to me in
>> isolation and I vaguely remember going through callers looking for
>> potential issues. Alas, I obviously missed this case.
>>
>
> I just to want to mention that although spinlock-based atomic bitops
> don't provide the full barrier in test_and_set_bit(), but they don't
> have the problem spotted by Hector, because test_and_set_bit() and
> clear_bit() sync with each other via locks:
>
> test_and_set_bit():
> lock(..);
> old = *p; // mask is already set by other test_and_set_bit()
> *p = old | mask;
> unlock(...);
> clear_bit():
> lock(..);
> *p ~= mask;
> unlock(..);
>
> so "having a full barrier before test_and_set_bit()" may not be the
> exact thing we need here, as long as a test_and_set_bit() can sync with
> a clear_bit() uncondiontally, then the world is safe. For example, we
> can make test_and_set_bit() RELEASE, and clear_bit() ACQUIRE on ARM64:
>
> test_and_set_bit():
> atomic_long_fetch_or_release(..); // pair with clear_bit()
> // guarantee everything is
> // observed.
> clear_bit():
> atomic_long_fetch_andnot_acquire(..);
>
> , maybe that's somewhat cheaper than a full barrier implementation.
>
> Thoughts? Just to find the exact ordering requirement for bitops.
It's worth pointing out that the workqueue code does *not* pair
test_and_set_bit() with clear_bit(). It does an atomic_long_set()
instead (and then there are explicit barriers around it, which are
expected to pair with the implicit barrier in test_and_set_bit()). If we
define test_and_set_bit() to only sync with clear_bit() and not
necessarily be a true barrier, that breaks the usage of the workqueue code.
- Hector
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-16 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-15 17:58 [PATCH] workqueue: Fix memory ordering race in queue_work*() Hector Martin
2022-08-15 19:10 ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-16 4:15 ` Herbert Xu
2022-08-16 5:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-16 5:36 ` Hector Martin
2022-08-16 5:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-16 6:28 ` Hector Martin
2022-08-16 7:48 ` Herbert Xu
2022-08-16 8:01 ` Hector Martin
2022-08-16 5:48 ` Herbert Xu
2022-08-16 6:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-16 13:41 ` Will Deacon
2022-08-16 14:55 ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-16 16:22 ` Hector Martin [this message]
2022-08-16 16:43 ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-16 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-16 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-17 5:05 ` Herbert Xu
2022-08-16 17:01 ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-16 16:26 ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-16 17:21 ` Hector Martin
2022-08-16 4:14 ` Herbert Xu
2022-08-16 5:37 ` Hector Martin
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