From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, joro@8bytes.org,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
mark.rutland@arm.com, joey.gouly@arm.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
broonie@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Document SVA interaction with new pagetable features
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:03:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f58898d-b9a9-4e54-a198-70351fa51784@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241205181404.GB664340@myrica>
On 2024-12-05 6:14 pm, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 01:48:09PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> Process pagetables may now be using new permission-indirection-based
>> features which an SMMU may not understand when given such a table for
>> SVA. Although SMMUv3.4 does add its own S1PIE feature, realistically
>> we're still going to have to cope with feature mismatches between CPUs
>> and SMMUs, so let's start simple and essentially just document the
>> expectations for what falls out as-is. Although it seems unlikely for
>> SVA applications to also depend on memory-hardening features, or
>> vice-versa,
>
> Hard to predict, but SVA could be indirectly enabled by some common
> library: for example a libcrypto plugin that shares the address space with
> an accelerator when one is available (see uadk_engine). I'm not familiar
> with the POE use-cases, but I guess a common library could also enable
> those memory-hardening features, such that unsuspecting applications have
> everything enabled.
>
>> the relative lifecycles make it tricky to enforce mutual
>> exclusivity. Thankfully our PIE index allocation makes it relatively
>> benign for an SMMU to keep interpreting them as direct permissions, the
>> only real implication is that an SVA application cannot harden itself
>> against its own devices with these features. Thus, inform the user about
>> that just in case they have other expectations.
>>
>> Also we don't (yet) support LPA2, so deny SVA entirely if we're going to
>> misunderstand the pagetable format altogether.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
>> ---
>> drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-sva.c | 15 ++++++++++++++-
>> 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-sva.c b/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-sva.c
>> index 1d3e71569775..9ba596430e7c 100644
>> --- a/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-sva.c
>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-sva.c
>> @@ -112,6 +112,15 @@ void arm_smmu_make_sva_cd(struct arm_smmu_cd *target,
>> * from the current CPU register
>> */
>> target->data[3] = cpu_to_le64(read_sysreg(mair_el1));
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Note that we don't bother with S1PIE on the SMMU, we just rely on
>> + * our default encoding scheme matching direct permissions anyway.
>> + * SMMU has no notion of S1POE nor GCS, so make sure that is clear if
>> + * either is enabled for CPUs, just in case anyone imagines otherwise.
>> + */
>> + if (system_supports_poe() || system_supports_gcs())
>> + dev_warn_once(master->smmu->dev, "SVA devices ignore permission overlays and GCS\n");
>
> If POE tightens the page permissions, enabling SVA on top lets the
> application easily bypass the POE protection. Could we actually return
> false in arm_smmu_sva_supported() instead of displaying a warning that
> likely no one will notice?
The difficulty with both features is that they're always unconditionally
*enabled* if present, but the SVA concern only arises if and when they
are *actively used*, and that can be a transient thing. It doesn't seem
reasonable to effectively make SVA unusable on newer CPUs (or at least
force users to boot with MMFR overrides to lose GCS/POE if they want to
use SVA), especially when it's far from clear how bothered anyone's
really going to be about this anyway. I just think we should do at least
*something* to remember and acknowledge that certain CPU features impact
SVA too.
> I guess enforcing !(SVA & POE) on an address space would be too much work?
Yes, to attempt to do this "properly" I believe we'd need to keep track
of how many SVA attachments, overlays, and GCS pages (if the SMMU can't
support S1PIE) a process has at any given point in time, then check
those in all 3 places to deny individual usage calls if the "opposing"
feature is currently in use.
Thanks,
Robin.
>
> Thanks,
> Jean
>
>> }
>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_IF_KUNIT(arm_smmu_make_sva_cd);
>>
>> @@ -206,8 +215,12 @@ bool arm_smmu_sva_supported(struct arm_smmu_device *smmu)
>> unsigned long asid_bits;
>> u32 feat_mask = ARM_SMMU_FEAT_COHERENCY;
>>
>> - if (vabits_actual == 52)
>> + if (vabits_actual == 52) {
>> + /* We don't support LPA2 */
>> + if (PAGE_SIZE != SZ_64K)
>> + return false;
>> feat_mask |= ARM_SMMU_FEAT_VAX;
>> + }
>>
>> if ((smmu->features & feat_mask) != feat_mask)
>> return false;
>> --
>> 2.39.2.101.g768bb238c484.dirty
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-06 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-05 13:48 [PATCH 1/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Document SVA interaction with new pagetable features Robin Murphy
2024-12-05 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: cpufeature: Add GCS to cpucap_is_possible() Robin Murphy
2024-12-05 14:23 ` Mark Rutland
2024-12-05 15:04 ` Mark Brown
2024-12-05 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-12-05 15:55 ` Robin Murphy
2024-12-05 15:40 ` Mark Rutland
2024-12-05 15:52 ` Mark Brown
2024-12-05 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Document SVA interaction with new pagetable features Jean-Philippe Brucker
2024-12-06 12:03 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2024-12-05 18:23 ` (subset) " Catalin Marinas
2024-12-10 0:17 ` Will Deacon
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