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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Mathias Stearn <mathias@mongodb.com>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Jinjie Ruan <ruanjinjie@huawei.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Blake Oler <blake.oler@mongodb.com>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] rseq: refactoring in v6.19 broke everyone on arm64 and tcmalloc everywhere
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 16:16:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7dgzbo7.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHnCjA1LqbaUGkPe79EeP6Mpaki8QWeR-JBSbrG0z6pTm9CmUg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 24 2026 at 10:32, Mathias Stearn wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 9:57 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>> The only problem is with membarrier (it used to force write to
>> __rseq_abi.cpu_id_start for all threads, but now it does not).
>> Otherwise the caching scheme works.
>
> I almost wrote a message last night saying that we didn't need
> cpu_id_start invalidation on preemption. However, I remembered that
> the Grow() function[1] does a load outside of a critical section then
> stores a derived value inside the critical section, guarded only by
> the cpu_id_start invalidation check in StoreCurrentCpu[2]. It really
> should be doing a compare against the original value inside the
> critical section (or just do the whole thing inside), but it doesn't.
> I haven't reasoned end-to-end through this fully to prove corruption
> is possible, but I suspect that it is if another thread same-cpu
> preempts between the loads and the store and updates the header before
> the original thread resumes and writes its original intended header
> value. Ditto for signals, which sometimes allocate even though they
> shouldn't.
>
> I was really hoping that we would only need to do the "redundant"
> cpu_id_start writes would only be needed on membarrier_rseq IPIs where
> it really is a pay-for-what-you-use functionality,

That's fine and can be solved without adding this sequence overhead into
the scheduler hotpath.

> I think existing binaries depend on invalidation on
> preemption. Luckily that should be cheap enough to be ~free.

That's only free when it can be burried in the rseq_cs update, which
means the ID update would not happen when rseq_cs is NULL.

If those two changes fix it w/o requiring additional tcmalloc changes,
I'm happy to hack that up tomorrow.

Thanks,

        tglx


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAHnCjA25b+nO2n5CeifknSKHssJpPrjnf+dtr7UgzRw4Zgu=oA@mail.gmail.com>
2026-04-22 12:56 ` [REGRESSION] rseq: refactoring in v6.19 broke everyone on arm64 and tcmalloc everywhere Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-22 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-23 10:38     ` Mathias Stearn
     [not found]     ` <CAHnCjA2fa+dP1+yCYNQrTXQaW-JdtfMj7wMikwMeeCRg-3NhiA@mail.gmail.com>
2026-04-23 11:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 12:11         ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-23 17:19           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 17:38             ` Chris Kennelly
2026-04-23 17:47               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 19:39               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 17:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-23 18:35               ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-23 18:53               ` Mark Rutland
2026-04-23 21:03               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 21:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-23 23:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-22 13:09 ` Mark Rutland
2026-04-22 17:49   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-22 18:11     ` Mark Rutland
2026-04-22 19:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23  1:48         ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-04-23  5:53           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-23 10:39             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 10:51               ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-23 12:24                 ` David Laight
2026-04-23 19:31                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-24  7:56                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-24  8:32                     ` Mathias Stearn
2026-04-24  9:30                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-24 14:16                       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-04-24 15:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 19:44                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-23 12:11             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-04-23 12:54               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 12:29             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 12:36               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-23 12:53                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-04-23 12:58                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-04-24 16:45 ` [PATCH] arm64/entry: Fix arm64-specific rseq brokenness (was: Re: [REGRESSION] rseq: refactoring in v6.19 broke everyone on arm64) " Mark Rutland

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